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Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man

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From: Mount Vernon WA USA
Registered: Nov 2000


 - posted 02-19-2002 01:24 PM      Profile for Paul G. Thompson   Email Paul G. Thompson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
There are some people who cannot adapt to the projection booth or its related equipment.

In other areas, those same people may perform a top-notched job. Maybe an aptitude test would prove valuable for a certain job consideration.

It is like a college professor who cannot run or is not qualified to run a 16mm classroom projector. Seen those type a million times over.


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Geoffrey Weiss
Film Handler

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From: Lexington, KY, USA
Registered: May 2001


 - posted 02-19-2002 01:46 PM      Profile for Geoffrey Weiss   Email Geoffrey Weiss   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Paul:

As a college professor teaching film criticism, I only wish we HAD 16mm (or better yet, 35mm) to run the films on. Instead, we're forced to use (mostly) DVDs and crappy LCD projectors. The images were worse when we were using VHS. No one consulted the film faculty on what WE might like when they did the installation.

On the original topic, lack of care is why I rarely go to the multiplex anymore. Alack! There's no more SHOW in show business. It's better if I don't have to deal with the concession staff, who act as if they might just as well be working at a fast food joint. Fortunately I know several of the local projectionists and can visit the theatre when I know they'll be working and the presentation, at least, will be good.

Of course, the pay is one factor in the quality of the staff. Pay is why I'm no longer working in exhibition--not that I make much more as a college teacher. I agree that people should take pride in their work regardless of what they're paid, but nobody does, and businesses shouldn't be relying on pride as a substitute for decent wages anyway.


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Paul G. Thompson
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 - posted 02-19-2002 04:03 PM      Profile for Paul G. Thompson   Email Paul G. Thompson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi, Geoffrey

I got a laugh out of the first paragraph of your post. I agree with everything you say.

I also think you agree with what I mentioned about people not being able to adapt to the job. One of many instances come to mind on this one.....we tried to train some people in the booth, and even though they were well motivated and really wanted to do it right, they just could not get it, even though we spent weeks at it to try to help them break through the brick wall, so to speak.

In high school, I was in the movie projector club. It was funny to be called into a classroom and see the film tangled in a knot around a 16 mm B&H Filmosound 500. It looked like they were wrapping the projector up for a Christmas present. Some teachers were desperately afraid of those projectors. This allowed us kids in the MP club to skip classes to run a movie in the girl's PE classes.

Now, THAT was a good deal..

I have attended a couple of college classes from time to time several years ago, and it was like watching a monkey in a banana factory when some of the professors made their attempts to run a 16 mm projector. But when it came to teaching their subject, they really knew their stuff!


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John Walsh
Film God

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 - posted 02-19-2002 04:28 PM      Profile for John Walsh   Email John Walsh   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm currently working on a three-tier projection class. The first would be training people just to thread and start; the second to make-up, break-down and simple maintaince (vhange bulbs); and third actual service work, which they can get paid extra for, also third-tier people are the only ones OK'ed to train new people. There's more to it all than just this, but that's the general idea.

The idea is not to spend too much time training a person who can't learn projection; show them a little, then see how they do. Also, I need to somehow put a stop to people who don't know much, teaching new employees bad habits.

I agree with Frank and Paul; some otherwise smart people just can't do projection - their talents are elsewhere.

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Geoffrey Weiss
Film Handler

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From: Lexington, KY, USA
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 - posted 02-19-2002 05:31 PM      Profile for Geoffrey Weiss   Email Geoffrey Weiss   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I really like your idea, John. Frankly, Paul, most of my colleagues would probably get their fingers pulled into the sprockets if they tried to run 16mm projectors. They're very book-smart (I'm probably one of the dumber ones), but they have little common or mechanical sense. In the words of Clint Eastwood (the subject of my dissertation), "A man's got to know his limitations."

John's idea takes into account of the fact that, to paraphrase Shakespeare, "Some are born to projection. Others have projection Thrust upon them." I'm just glad I have the chance to learn from everybody on film-tech. Believe me, there's plenty of stuff on these pages I carry into the classroom (see, for example, the discussion on the quality of carbon arc light vs. xenon--something I hadn't really thought much about until it came up here.)

PS. Let me know if the quotes and paraphrases get annoying. I'm trying to break myself of the academic writing style!

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Eli Blasingame
Film Handler

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From: Loleta, CA, USA
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 - posted 02-22-2002 02:00 AM      Profile for Eli Blasingame   Email Eli Blasingame   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I would like to say thx to all of you for your help. Well, it is ture that it is hard to work with someone who was just doing a great job selling popcorn and now get moved up into the booth. I just feel that the floor managers think we make up the stories about the stress of running the shows. They think we say those things to keep them away. Well I replaced one with, a kid just out of the Army and I hope he is as good as i think he can be. He acts like he likes it and he has the eye for it, but its only been 2 days. no more hiring off the floor for me.
well thx all , and hope to hear more from you all.
And yes the key to being a pro is by training and we will be doing alot of that. If you have any good ideals, well write back. I can use all the help I can get. Eli

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