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John Hawkinson
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 - posted 03-16-2002 01:06 PM      Profile for John Hawkinson   Email John Hawkinson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Isn't this is an issue that NATO could easily address, given that it seems to be such a univerally vexing problem?

Has anyone done due-diligence on this problem? I mean, I don't hear people saying they've talked to their buyer/booker, raised the issue with management at TES, or with print control at the relevent studios.

Tackling it from an industry trade organization sure seems wrong if you haven't picked up the phone and asked the right people yet.

--jhawk

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 03-16-2002 02:58 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Frank Angel: "If I have to keep a projectionist an extra 2 hours on overtime to get a print ready for a next-day ship-out, you can be sure that is going to be tacked on to the total rental fee I charge them."

Uhmmmm....Frank you run a changeover house that runs 2000' reels...and it takes your projectionists an extra 2 hours to prepare the print for ship-out? It only takes 20-30 minutes to break down a print from a platter! Where's Steve Guttag? He has been lying to us on the merits of running changeovers!!!


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Steve Kraus
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As I am a firm believer in tails-out shipping {"Standard Print Makeup Do Not Rewind") since that's how I like to receive prints, I can almost always use the shippers as takeups. So a print is ready for shipping as fast as I can put the band on the last reel and close the case, much to the relief of the couriers who still don't believe that when a pickup is ordered for time=XX:YY it doesn't mean XX:YY minus 30 -45 minutes.

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Frank Angel
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 - posted 03-18-2002 01:25 AM      Profile for Frank Angel   Author's Homepage   Email Frank Angel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Brad,

You said: > Uhmmmm....Frank you run a changeover house that runs 2000' reels...and it takes your projectionists an extra 2 hours to prepare the print for ship-out? It only takes 20-30 minutes to break down a print from a platter! Where's Steve Guttag? He has been lying to us on the merits of running changeovers!!! <

Actually I was just responding to Mike's Jones' original complaint that TES's policy costs him 2 extra hours by their moving prints around. Me, at the last show we are rewinding back to shipping reels as the picture plays out. We are outta the booth sometimes before the last patron leaves the lobby.

I would like to ship prints tails-out like Steve K, but long ago I developed an uncontrollable terror of using shipping reels for take-up. I would rather let the next guy deal with a heads-up print than risk using a metal shipping reel or one of TES's cracked and falling apart reels for take-up. Of course I could rewind twice, but, hey, then I wouldn't beat the last patrons out of the theatre, would I?


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Joe Beres
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Steve, I too would love to receive all prints tails out, but I must admit that I share Frank's "uncontrollable terror of using shipping reels for take up." Considering the state of some of the reels I receive films on, I am sometimes even wary of rewinding the film onto them at all. In some cases I even provide a shipping reel when the one that came is broken, cracked, or could do irreversible damage to a print. I take everything up onto our house reels and then rewind onto the shippers and ship the print heads out.

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