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Steve Scott
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Minneapolis, MN
Registered: Sep 2000


 - posted 07-01-2002 10:27 PM      Profile for Steve Scott   Email Steve Scott   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Policy trailers are an in and out problem with our one DTS system. The Marcus policy trailer will cause one of three things to happen: 1. Default to SR with our CP65 and not return to Digital
2. Lose timecode and go silent until the feature starts, at which time it plays in SR
3. Default to SR, return to digital

I've found that it depends on the print. Lilo & Stitch pulls a #2, Changing Lanes did a #1, and Episode 2 did a #3.

The solution, in my opinion is comprehensive cues for sound format changes, but in the absence of automation, or within the supply of cue tape, there's room for other options.

I'll be interested to hear any solutions that anyone's come across.

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Frank Angel
Film God

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Registered: Dec 1999


 - posted 07-01-2002 11:23 PM      Profile for Frank Angel   Author's Homepage   Email Frank Angel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Seems that if you have a disk that has your policy soundfile on it, and then run into the problem that newer disks do not, why not copy the your policy file from the disk that contains it to a PC hard drive. Then when disks come in where it is missing, just burn all the files on the the new errant disk, but add your policy file to it. Now you have a copy of the current disk but it will contain the policy trailer soundfile as well.

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John Hawkinson
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The point you are missing, Frank, is that all trailers (policy and otherwise) are in one file, and it is less than completely trivial to pick apart the file and extract individual trailers.

--jhawk

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Frank Angel
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 - posted 07-03-2002 03:52 AM      Profile for Frank Angel   Author's Homepage   Email Frank Angel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ah, I see. No doubt the software that compiles that file is DTS proprietary, right? If the compiling software were available, we might be able to deal with it (recording all the trailers that would be needed and then compiling all the audio files including the policy trailer). Seems more trouble than it's worth though, given how good a well calibrated analog system playing SR can sound. Besides, us art houses folks are too poor to be able to afford custom logo snips with DTS tracks in the first place.


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John Hawkinson
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Bleh. I just bothered to go look at the URL I kept pointing people at, and discovered that somewhere along the way, the configuration of the web server changed and it no longer attached or displayed the README file. This would have made things unnecessarily cryptic--fixed.

Anyhow, my software is here.

Frank, DTS's software to create trailers is proprietary. My software will let you shuffle around individual trailers within the monolithic file, so you can combine and seperate trailers from individual discs. That's the whole point .

--jhawk

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