Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE: special tools?

my profile | my password | search | faq & rules | forum home

»	Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE » Operations » Film Handlers' Forum » special tools? (Page 2)

This topic comprises 3 pages: 1 2 3

Author

Topic: special tools?

Brad Miller
Administrator

Posts: 17775
From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99

posted 04-18-2002 02:58 PM

Next thing to check is your motor drive belt. Get the new style for the decks and it turns MUCH easier. I'm just surprised you have a problem, as I've ran plenty of old film on it. Then again maybe those prints you are speaking of are desperate for lubrication. Still that shouldn't be done unless it is an extreme situation.

BTW Josh, have you played with the large center rings for the AW3? They are quite nice, as not only can you time the platters slower to start with, but it makes buildup faster and there is substantially less backtension during breakdown on what would have been reel 1 (where the tension is greatest, of course). I don't even use the regular size rings anymore.

| IP: Logged

Josh Jones
Redhat

Posts: 1207
From: Plano, TX
Registered: Apr 2000

posted 04-19-2002 01:20 AM

Drive belts? you mean pucks?

We repucked the platter because during construction the platter sat in one position for a period of several months. The decks vibrated so bad we had to repuck the platter. I havent notice a drastic decrease in tension.

Josh

P.s. I didnt know they made larger rings except for the trailor rings. Are those what you were referring to?

| IP: Logged

Brad Miller
Administrator

Posts: 17775
From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99

posted 04-19-2002 05:58 AM

Yup, the trailer rings. They are about 19 inches in diameter. (And yes the "pucks" are called belts for some strange reason. I don't remember the part number, but I'm fairly sure it ends in -001.)

| IP: Logged

Carl King
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 199
From: Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada
Registered: Mar 2000

posted 04-19-2002 12:58 PM

Michael.

Actually, your spinner is what prompted me to ask about tools.
I had heard through my manager here that someone in Bayer's Lake
had made something to help install trailers. If you have a picture of
it maybe you could give it to Francis next time you see him. I'd like
to see what it looks like.

Carl
Exhibition, Saint John

| IP: Logged

Darren Briggs
Master Film Handler

Posts: 371
From: York, UK
Registered: Dec 2001

posted 04-19-2002 01:33 PM

tool for the projection booth, A keypad lock on the door and dont tell management the code, then on busy evenings, you cant get pestered! just dont ansawer the phone either!

| IP: Logged

Sean McKinnon
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1712
From: Peabody Massachusetts
Registered: Sep 2000

posted 04-19-2002 02:15 PM

Darren,

The manager is responsible for the operation of the entire theatre. Remember you work for the manager and he/she has every right to be anywhere in thier building at anytime. I know you were probably joking but I disagree with people who think that Managers should stay out of the booth. If you do your job 100% then you have no reason to worry about your manager coming in the booth.

| IP: Logged

Gerard S. Cohen
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 975
From: Forest Hills, NY, USA
Registered: Sep 2001

posted 04-19-2002 03:54 PM

Hola, German!
Beautiful photo of a projectionist, seriously at work. [Is he Angel?
Did you take the picture? How did you get it to post? I can't attach
or insert html graphics on Film-tech.]
The cores are usually referred to here by their size in inches. You show the smallest, a one-inch (1 in. or 1")yellow core, and a two-inch
blue core. There is a three-inch core that's gentle on film because of its larger radius. I dislike the 1" cores because the film developes a set curl, so that you unwind up with your hands enmeshed in a table full of "Shirley Temple curls."
Gerard

.............................................................
"Si tienes prisa, paseme por encima."

| IP: Logged

Michael Rourke
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 159
From: San Luis Obispo, Central Coast of CA
Registered: Feb 2002

posted 04-19-2002 11:54 PM

Brad and Josh: I thought they were called drive wheels, the little piece of rubber that screws to the motor shaft and "drives" the platter.

Brad: I was taught to prop the motor off the platter and hold a thick rag against the platter to give it back tension when breaking down. I really don't see an arguement for not propping the motor off the platter as long as you give the platter some tension. Don't newer Christie towers come with a motor locking option so you don't have to use a pen or toothbrush?

| IP: Logged

Sean McKinnon
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1712
From: Peabody Massachusetts
Registered: Sep 2000

posted 04-20-2002 01:25 PM

If you are using a rag in your hand to provide back tension for the platter you will end up with an uneneven wind. Your hand cannot physically provide steady tension as well as the motor can. I was taught to breakdown christies as you do then I realized that it was poor practice because that it not how the machine was designed. It became a lot easier to break down once I started to operate the machine the way that it was designed to be used.

| IP: Logged

German Marin
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 227
From: Verbania (VB), Italy
Registered: Jul 2001

posted 04-20-2002 03:46 PM

Hola Gerard, como estas? I'm doing fine.
To attach a picure first: it needs to be on a web page (I've the pictures in this site: http://mipagina.cantv.net/film_handler/recreo.htm then I type:
[img] http://mipagina.cantv.net/film_handler/images/recreo08.jpg [/img]
You are right, that guy is Angel Hultzsch (we've done a great work team for almost 10 months, he still at El Recreo and I'm at Lagunita). I took few pictures and Angel took most of it.
I know four sizes cores (in cm. because i don't have a inch measurement): 10 cm (4 inch?), 7.5 cm (3 inch?), 5 cm (2 inch?) and 2.9 cm (1 inch!). I don't like 5 cm niether 2.9cm for the same reason you don't like it. The blue core you can see there on the photo i 10 cm.
"Si tienes prisa, pasame por encima" <----LOL. I'm used to hear that phrase on the streets of my city!

Take care of films! (I do all I've learned here )

| IP: Logged

Gerard S. Cohen
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 975
From: Forest Hills, NY, USA
Registered: Sep 2001

posted 04-20-2002 07:06 PM

German:
And a beautiful website of photos you have there!
Except the one of the projectionist in the red shirt [you?] lifting
a feature print off the Christie platters without clamps! I wouldn't
DO that (tengo miedo!) You must wind really tight, or tu tienes
cojones del matador...
Looks like a modern, clean work environment, with the right guys at work!
Gerard

| IP: Logged

Bob Peticolas
Film Handler

Posts: 73
From: Mesilla, New Mexico
Registered: Jan 2000

posted 04-21-2002 01:05 PM

German,

A very well done site!! Your descriptions of digital sound with diagrams would make anybody proud.

Now, translate the text into English and you would be loved by everybody who has to explain these things to new projectionists or (gasp) even managers (or your Board of Directors, if you have to live with one).

Great work, keep it up!

| IP: Logged

Brad Miller
Administrator

Posts: 17775
From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99

posted 04-21-2002 05:00 PM

Michael, Sean already answered the question, and no Christie platters do not come with such a ridiculous "feature". As far as I am concerned, any platter that requires human intervention to apply backtension on breakdown is junk and should not be used, for it is not good on the film. This has been discussed to death before, just do a search.

I stand corrected. "Drive wheel pn#192826-001" At least I was right about it ending in -001.

| IP: Logged

Michael West
Film Handler

Posts: 67
From: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Registered: Apr 2000

posted 04-21-2002 11:49 PM

Carl
the "spinner" we use to place trailers in the platter was actually made from an old trailer core adapter as a base that fit into the centre of a platter deck (strong). the one i made from scratch, when i worked at the oxford was similar but used an old centre control as a base that fit in the platter. i will show francis when i see him, or post a picture later.

| IP: Logged

German Marin
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 227
From: Verbania (VB), Italy
Registered: Jul 2001

posted 04-22-2002 12:31 AM

Gerard, Bob: Thanks

. I'm making the web site for people who cannot read english (there are a low level english speakers in my country) and I've traslate tips from Film-Tech to my web (english to spanish) but I'll traslate the web to english soon (maybe next May).
Yes, I'm the red T-shirt's guy who is lifting the feature print without clamps (this print is "Shrek" and is a five reels movie, I feel it light to move between screens and platters). Saturdays we were used to projecting three different films in the same screen (Matinèe, "VIN" Vespertine-intermediate-nocturnal, mid night) and we must move the films. The movie wind tight by it selves while is running. A 7 reels feature print is more dangerous to lift without clamps because it's bigger in diameter (I've seen prints bigger than 7 reels dropped on the floor, like Joe in his 2nd training video).

I'm updating my "software" while I'm getting knowledge from this great site. I dare to say that this is the greatest school of projection around the world. (I'm sure it is! )

| IP: Logged

All times are Central (GMT -6:00)

This topic comprises 3 pages: 1 2 3

Printer-friendly view of this topic

The Film-Tech Forums are designed for various members related to the cinema industry to express their opinions, viewpoints and testimonials on various products, services and events based upon speculation, personal knowledge and factual information through use, therefore all views represented here allow no liability upon the publishers of this web site and the owners of said views assume no liability for any ill will resulting from these postings. The posts made here are for educational as well as entertainment purposes and as such anyone viewing this portion of the website must accept these views as statements of the author of that opinion and agrees to release the authors from any and all liability.