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John Pytlak
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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
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posted 04-26-2002 12:52 PM
For those who want to buy bulk, Kodak's website has a list of solvents suitable for film cleaning, along with the pros and cons of each:
http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/motion/hse/solvent.shtml Because there are so many proprietary film cleaners and film treatments, Kodak does not make specific recommendations. Recommendations of satisfied users and lack of reported problems are probably the best guide. Here are guidelines for "hand cleaning" with a quick-evaporating film cleaning solvent:
http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/motion/support/technical/hand2.shtml#cleaning ------------------
John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: +1 585 477 5325 Cell: +1 585 781 4036 Fax: +1 585 722 7243
E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion
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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
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posted 04-26-2002 01:58 PM
Christopher,I would say that if someone wants to compare cleaning/lubricating effectiveness that they should perform the tests fairly. If you want to apply FG to the print, use a media cleaner. For applying XeKote, also use a media cleaner, but beware you will have to go to the cleaner every so often to resoak the pads while the movie is running. If you want to wipe the edges of the print, not to clean, but to act as a lubricant, do so with both products. Giving one product an advantage over the other would not be a fair comparison (even though the advantage would be on FG's side either way). (Liquid Death? Joe, I think you're going to scare some people who don't know you are joking.)
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Christopher Seo
Jedi Master Film Handler
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From: Los Angeles, CA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 04-26-2002 03:24 PM
I have indeed tried soaking media rolls in XeKote/141 and running film through them... it evaporates so quickly, and the idea of resoaking them every 5 minutes is so impractical, that I didn't think it was worth trying to make it work. Hence for all practical purposes you can't compare XeKote/141 to Film-Guard, with a media cleaner.And yes, I didn't specifically mention that I have also wiped down prints with Film-Guard as compared to XeKote/141. Unless my application technique improved drastically between my early-on attempts with XeKote and my later attempts with Film-Guard, there was no contest.  Anyway, it's true that for a pure product comparison you would want the usage conditions to be identical, but in terms of practical effectiveness a product certainly gains points for ease of use. Even if XeKote/141 were 10 times the cleaner and lubricant that Film-Guard is, which it's not, the difficulty of applying it to the film evenly would lower its overall value.
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