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Mark Lensenmayer
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John Harvey's 35mm prologue for THIS IS CINERAMA came from the drive-in showings. It had a bit of a hesitation to it, as they had converted it from 24fps in normal showings to the 26fps needed for Cinerama..this way, they did not need a separate projector for the prologue...they could just splice it on to the first reel of Baker projector, and put blank film on the Able and Charlie machines.

There are also documented showings of 3-strip presentations of WINDJAMMER in Cincinnati (Twin Drive-In with some of the sailors in attendance on opening night) and in upper New York state. I believe that the sound came from a mono mag track on one of the machines. I think Marty Hart has a small section from one of those prints.


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Thomas Hauerslev
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South Africa did it. link

Press South Africa



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John Pytlak
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Thanks Thomas. Your site also lists the fate of the DP70 projectors from the I-290 Drive-In in Buffalo NY:

"Buffalo Young St. Drive-In
Two DP70 were installed in 1966. These are now in the Oswego theatre, NY."

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Mark,
I gave John Harvey an actual 35mm B&W original of the prolog for T.I.C. to run at Dayton and I was quite ticked off that he never used it. It sure looks good and has none of the transfer artifacts of the drive in print.
I have several other prologs including Cinerama Holiday that I intend only to lend out if and when needed after that experience.
Mark @ GTS

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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A little history about James's Vent Arc lamphouses are in order here. They were found at Harry Melchers..an equipment dealer in Milwaukee. We found them in Harrys basement along with a bunch of other really interesting stuff. They are so huge and heavy that we had to use a chain motor winch to get them up out of the basement. They filled my van entirely for the trip back to Jims place. We were told that this pair was only ever installed for a short time for a demo of some type and then removed. They were missing the secondary mirrors and one feed motor on each. Jim scoured the country and eventually rounded up these parts to complete them. They are in operating condition and are probably the only pair that still are. They sound like a loud blow torch when operating and had to drive the operators in any booth crazy. These lamps lit many a 70mm Cinerama sreen including the Cinerama Dome, and I believe the Uptown in D.C. Steve G. can you confirm this?
I think Jim has now had them converted to a large industrial size washer and dryer pair for doing his clothes...
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Edwin Graf Diemer
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Here are the 70mm drive-ins that I know of-hope you can add some more!

Buffalo, NY I-290 DI Norelco
Tonawanda, NY Young Street DI Norelco (installed 1966)
Denver, CO North Star DI Norelco (135 x 60 screen, 1,600 cars)
Fresno, CA Sunnyside DI Norelco (ca. 4/65 140 x 60 screen, 1,750)
Honolulu, HI Kailua DI Norelco (ca. 1/5/65 1,750 cars)
New Orleans, LA Westgate DI
Oklahoma City, OK Cinema 70 DI Norelco
Las Vegas, NV Sunset DI Century JJ
Orange County CA South Valley DI Norelco
Aurora, CO East DI Theatre Norelco
Denver, CO North Star DI Theatre Norelco
Atlanta, GA Thunderbird DI Theatre Norelco
Dubuque, Iowa Super 20 DI Theatre Norelco
Slidell, Louisiana Tiger DI Theatre Norelco
Shrewsbury, MA Edgemere DI Theatre Norelco
Minneapolis, Minnesota Mann's DI Norelco
Columbus, Mississippi Fiesta DI Norelco
St. Louis, Missouri North DI Theatre Norelco
St. Louis (Florissant), Missouri 270 DI Theatre Norelco
Lawnside, NJ White Horse Pike DI Norelco
Cranston, RI Cranston Auto Park Theatre Norelco


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Paul Linfesty
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There was a drive-in theatre in San Diego that advertised LOGAN's RUN in 70mm in 1976. Can't remember of the drive-in, though.

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Pete Naples
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There are a pair of Strong Jet Arcs in a store room at the Playhouse, Perth, here in Scotland. They were used on the back of a pair of Fedi 35-70 XTs, and were replaced with xenon converted Magnarcs. The Fedis and Magnarcs are now replaced with Century, but the Jet Arcs were so bloomin' big and 'eavy that nobody fancied moving them down the 6 or so stories from the booth store room, so there they lie to this day.

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Chris Erwin
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On the Jet-Arc, didn't win an Academy Award for Technical Achievement?
I think I read that somewhere before.

--Chris

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John Pytlak
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Chris Erwin asked: "On the Jet-Arc, didn't win an Academy Award for Technical Achievement?"

Yes it did:

1965
(38th) Class II Lighting ARTHUR J. HATCH of the Strong Electric Corporation, subsidiary of General Precision Equipment Corporation, for the design and development of an Air Blown Carbon Arc Projection Lamp

http://wwwdb.oscars.org/scitech_db/index.html

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Larry Shaw
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I ran the now bulldozed South Weymouth Twin Drive-In a few times (manual 20 min. C/O's, 2 projectionists). Both sides had JJ's with 13.6 Ashcans, Water cooled gates, Cine-focus, Bug blowers. Those were the days.

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John Pytlak
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Larry - Did they get any 70mm prints for that drive-in?

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David Kilderry
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Here is the person that spoke about 70mm drive-ins in Australia!

Where do I start, there were heaps of them. Metro Clayton Twin, Village Northland Twin, Hoyts Coburg - now Village Coburg Triple, Hoyts Maribyrnong, Hoyts Altona etc etc.

All of these drive-ins frequently ran 70mm in the 1960's, through the 1970's and into the 1980's. The Village Coburg Triple is equipped with 70mm Cinemeccanica Victoria 8's with Strong X60 C lamphouses, they can run changeovers or by Speco LP 270 platters. They have not run 70mm since at least 1984.

If you go to www.drive-insdownunder.com.au you will see photos of the 70mm Philips DP70's in action at Altona on the Victoria page under Australian drive-ins, also the Cinemeccanicas at Bulleen and Coburg.

Light was always a little better with 70mm, but the frame could have taken much more than we were equipped to put out. Clayton had Ashcraft Core-Lites and others ran Ashcraft Super-Cinex. These ran at around 160 amps with rotating positives and the light was OK for a drive-in even on the large Metro Twin curved drive-in screens - yep curved, look at the photo.

There were other 70mm drive-ins here in Melbourne and many others throughout the country. It is interesting to note that most of the drive-ins here did not even advertise that a print was screening in 70mm, the distributor would often just send it out.

There has been no 70mm ran in a Melbourne drive-in for at least 15 years.


David Kilderry

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