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Topic: EP II ... How's your print look?
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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

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From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 05-15-2002 11:40 PM
If the print I just saw is any indication on the state of the SW EP:2 prints (film) then they are very sorry lot indeed! Soft focus doesn't really do it justice...even the damn titles were soft....racked focus...looked with a screen-scope...see the grains but still soft image.But wait, theres more...who QCed the digital tracks? If you are running DTS, you will probably be ok but for the sound on film guys watch out. SDDS faired a bit better than Dolby with only one noticable dropout in R-7. The Dolby Digital printing was just plain horrible! The film is printed with the azimuth off to between -3 and -4. The focus on the Dolby digital track is also rather low (in the 50s and 60s best focus). To add insult to injury, the trailers played wonderfully with "1s". The reader was checked against reference (measured) test film to verify it was in proper calibration (and the trailers running fine also proved the reader is working well). It would be one thing if just one reel had a problem but nope they all did. I'd recommend DTS for this film if you have it. Steve PS: I did notice the "EX" effects in this one more than in EP:1 PPS: SDDS is only in 5.1 ------------------ "Old projectionists never die, they just changeover!"
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John Pytlak
Film God

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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 05-16-2002 07:34 AM
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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99
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posted 05-16-2002 08:14 AM
Good words? Simple. Even with the crappiest non-Kodak film, using FilmGuard will STILL eliminate all static from the print and keep it in like new condition for months.  Anyway getting to my reply, the 4 prints I looked at tonight were a mixed batch. I have one reel 2 that has those godawful oversized CAP code marks like John Hawkinson posted pictures of about a month ago. This simply MUST be replaced! My prints from Deluxe Toronto generally looked better than the one from Deluxe Hollywood (no big surprise), but there was a noticeable amount of negative dirt and some very odd things here and there. One reel had knicks in it every few feet. This may have been at each turn of the reel, but as Fox only delivered my 4 prints just under four hours before showtime, I didn't have much time for inspection. Another reel had bizarre clear spots, there's the big screwup with the CAP code on another and I know I am forgetting some of the other problems, but it's late and I'm tired. Overally, generally sloppy lab work with this one. Sure every print may have been a "show print", but what I saw made me say "big deal". Also, as Steve pointed out the SDDS track is indeed quite sloppy and there were tons of dropouts in it. (I have no idea how the SRD tracks are.) DTS played without a glitch. Regarding the image quality, the only stuff that looked really good to me were the darker scenes with light sabers flailing around. Otherwise it just looked like very good video. I think the biggest complaint was the lack of contrast in the image. Outdoor scenes "burned" clear white and the very dark scenes looked like a cheap consumer video camera with "gain" turned on (lots of grain, lots of random color in that grain). The movie is soft, soft, soft focus. I spent a good 20 minutes tweeking that focus to make sure it was absolutely as sharp as it could be, but the resolution just isn't there. Sorry George, but shooting in digital is just not ready quite yet. Of course that's only my opinion. To be fair, I did not receive one single complaint about the focus. Sound...Gary Rydstrom is once again my hero for sound mixing. This film sounded FANTASTIC! This by far beats out any other Star Wars mix and my only complaint with it was some of the dialogue did not sound natural (not Gary's fault) and sometimes one person's dialogue in a 2 person conversation sounded a bit too loud (Gary's fault). Overall this is damn, damn good sound mixing! A hearty "job VERY well done" goes out to Gary and everyone associated with that sound mix.
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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

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From: Annapolis, MD
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posted 05-16-2002 09:45 AM
My biggest complaint with the sound mixing would be lack of directional dialogue. There are several scenes with many characters where the speaking character may be quite some distance from the center speaker and it caused what appeared to be a lip-sync problem but upon closer inspection was just due to the distance from the center speaker. Other than that, yes I would say it was a fine mix with good use of the surrounds and subwoofers (good, not "over use"). Come on Gary, it's time for directional dialogue to come back. Steve ------------------ "Old projectionists never die, they just changeover!"
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