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What ??! What ??!

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"Going back to the original mix, we were shocked when we heard it. We grabbed the original 70mm full-coat that actually had the label from the Pinewood stage on it; it had a date of November 1978. We put it up in a dubbing stage. We had Dolby down there a couple times verifying that the set up on the Dolby units, the decoding, was correct. Superman was the first film that was originally recorded in a 70mm 6-track split surround but here's the rub that no one knows about but it's the truth. They mixed in split surrounds but they did not use the surrounds very much, especially in a stereo way because it was very new and they were very scared of it. At the last second, here in America, they brought it over to do some final mastering on the 70mm and they chickened out and the film was only released with mono surround in the 70mm format. So they mixed it for stereo surround, but it was never released that way and the fact is that there wasn't much difference anyway."

Now, I could have sworn Richard Donner and Creative Consultant Tom Mankiewicz said something about the same topic during their commentary, but I just can't seem to find it in a scan.

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1962's worth a restauration:

Lawrence - been done (not dts, but done...)
HTWWW - too many strips for me...
BOUNTY - damned anamorph

Whoever knows, please come up front !

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"With dialog it doesn't really matter that much because you normally put the dialog down in the center channel anyway. Superman was different; they actually draped it across the whole front three speakers, which really prevented us from using any of the original mix. It doesn't work that well and sounds strange. Stereo was kind of a new gadget and I think they were just playing with the new toy. Dialog is best kept in the center channel for clarity."

While it is true Superman used directional dialog, it was hardly a new "gadget". Stereo, complete with directionalized dialog had been used in movies for, oh, 25 years before "Superman." Hardly a "new toy" or concept. It just goes to show that these memories on DVD commentariy tracks and in film journals are not always the accurate sources of information people make them out to be.

I agree with what you say in regards to the people referring to things like dialog pans across stage channels as a "new gadget". Some wrongly believe 70mm Dolby A mag was the originator of 6-track magnetic sound. A lot of film fans today don't know about past formats like 70mm mag having ever existed.

RE: "Superman"

I don't feel the quotes you supplied from the DVDFile article necessarily proves much of anything. Why? Because I have spoken to Michael Thau, one of the producers of the "Superman" restoration project and DVD, and received information that condradicts his quotes supplied to DVDFile.com. You see, as with DVDFile and other publications, I too had prepared a story on "Superman" which incorporated interview material with many of the people involved in both the original production and the restoration. Mr. Thau and one of his producing collaborators, Jonathan Gaines, were gracious enough to invite me to sit in on two days of work on the project (one day for the sound mix, one day for the video transfer). There were additional conversations as well, and I simply have a different impression of the original sound mix and release than the quotes supplied to DVDFile.

Does this prove anything? No. But it does point to how people quite simply are not always armed with correct information, no matter how "connected" to a project they may be.

Now, if only some experienced projectionists on this forum (Gordon? Steve?) could weigh in on my question a few posts back about what an audience would actually hear if a print was in Format 42 but played back in 43. The question is whether or not the surrounds and "baby boom" would disappear if intended for 42 but played back in 43.

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There's actually more than one 70mm-DTS release planned; I threw out the "think 40th anniversary" hint for only one of the titles. I am aware of the other titles being considered, but since they have not been officially announced for release the studios (and Karen at DTS) would not be too happy with me if I revealed the titles.

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Cheers, Thomas