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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

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 - posted 06-13-2002 10:33 AM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
John, you do realize that Kodak accidentally placed one of the S's BACKWARDS on the page that your first link points to, right? Unacceptable.

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John Pytlak
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 - posted 06-13-2002 10:36 AM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Joe said: "John, you do realize that Kodak accidentally placed one of the S's BACKWARDS on the page that your first link points to, right? Unacceptable."

A web page created by the same folks who inspired you with "digital beards" .

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John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging
Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A
Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA
Tel: +1 585 477 5325 Cell: +1 585 781 4036 Fax: +1 585 722 7243
e-mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com
Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion

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Bobby Henderson
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 - posted 06-13-2002 05:09 PM      Profile for Bobby Henderson   Email Bobby Henderson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I wanted to hit another point in this discussion regarding interpolation since Rick McCallum seems to think it is just fine.

Whenever I hear or read the word "interpolation" I think of some bottom-of-the-barrel quality flatbed scanner someone is trying to sell for $60 and claiming "9600 X 9600 ppi resolution (interpolated)" when the thing really has an optical hardware resolution of only 300ppi.

You have to have enough real pixels of image detail to get anywhere. Interpolation creates no new image detail. It just blurs and smooths what little you have in the first place.

Line doublers and quadruplers for home theater viewing are nice, and they deal with the very low levels of detail carried by home video sources. Film projection already has a great deal of native detail on the film strip. Changing that for something that is heavily interpolated is a big step backwards.

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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 06-13-2002 05:22 PM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Bobby, you just don't get it. If Rick McCallum says it is good, then it is good. Do you think Rick McCallum would ever speak of anything he doesn't fully understand? Surely not.

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Frank Angel
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 - posted 06-14-2002 09:26 PM      Profile for Frank Angel   Author's Homepage   Email Frank Angel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
DAMN that was an annoying piece.

You wade through all the blah....blah....blah...blah like a sanitation worker wadeing thru a sewage tank, and it's the same old tired BS. But then you come to the wonderfully unexpected, really chunky stuff:

> "When we first started we had a Mark 4 Texas Instruments projector... now they're already on the Mark 8." <

Bobby is totally on the money here -- this guy is shooting himself and all the other digital evangelists in both feet with a freakin bazooka. Can you see the exhibitors running for the door the second they hear this? How stupid is this guy? Bet Technicolor which bought up 1000 Mark 4 DLPs for their give-away plan is REAL happy to hear that they already have obsolete equipment by four generations. Pretty soon they won't be able to *PAY* anyone to take their free DLPs.

More from Mr. McCallum....
> "For the first time, the movie industry is in the same world as the computer business. Every 18 months we're getting twice the value at half the cost." <

Whoa....THAT should make exhibitors feel good! Excuse me, but I know what it is like to have a computer as do most exhibitor execs -- yeah, you don't exactly get twice the value at half the cost because you still have to junk your original investment 18 months after you bought it. And the new equipment never is HALF what you paid for your old computer -- give me a break -- it's always just about the same price as the old one, maybe more, because they make sure there is more stuff to buy with it. You always have to pay through the nose for state-of-the-art. So every few years you plunk down $2,000 and throw the old computer out because you can't even GIVE a 486 away, just like I couldn't give away my 8086 with its HUGE 30Mb hard drive (physically the the size of a Buick), as I couldn't give away my 286 or my 486 (I skipped the 386s) or my Pentium I 75Mhz. Every new computer cost me around $2,000. Over and over and freakin over. So who is this dumbass trying to kid?! Makes you wonder what they are smoking out there at "the ranch."

Frank


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