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Topic: The Amplifier You Install the Most
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Tony Bandiera Jr
Film God

Posts: 3067
From: Moreland Idaho
Registered: Apr 2004
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posted 06-03-2010 11:06 PM
Back on topic (but thanks for the info on lamps and ballasts guys!!) it has always been QSC only for me.
Starting way back in the mid-late 80's when I worked for Knott's Berry Farm and we were switching from Altec (not bad but parts were getting hard to come by and they were underpowered) and Yamaha (Great motorcycles but crappy amps) I have been a huge fan of QSC.
True story: Set up sound on the roof of Calico Saloon for Halloween Haunt's sound efx. Used one Yamaha amp and one QSC 1400. Both were powered up overnight and got rained (heavily) on. Guess which one survived? The 1400 was still on and working but the Yamaha was dead. Never could get it working even after extensive drying time.
Another: One USA series amp at UC Irvine failed. No drama, just came in one day and it was dead. Took it to QSC Service which is local to UCI, dropped it off for repair. Despite the fact it was out of warranty (5 years old) QSC repaired it for free and even shipped it back to me at no charge. After 13 years that has been the only breakdown of the 7 MXa series and 3 USA series amps in that room. Oh, the amps stay powered up 24/7.
Another selling point for me is the integration of QSC's hardware now for cinema use..The DCM monitors, DCA amps and the speaker systems which work extremely well together. My new install at UCI gets rave reviews for sound quality and it was at a great price point.
As for Crown, I have been generally satisfied with the sound, but the reliability and often violent failure modes has made me stay away from them. I have seen too many Crown amps go down with lots of sparks and flames and impress the full DC power supply voltage to the speakers. In fact IIRC it was a Crown amp that caught fire and caused an evacuation and shutdown of a ride at Disney's California Adventure park.
BGW amps were once popular here in So Cal but have been replaced over time with QSC. The BGW's were generally quite good, but the combination power switch/circuit breaker was a weak link.
So for sound quality, ease of installation, integration from processor output to speakers, reliability and outstanding service support at a great price point, QSC wins hands down.
quote: Demetris Thoupis I believe this perception of QSC DCA amps as the best is just something that has been planted in our brains throughout the years. I do not say that QSC are not great. They are excellent and I used RMX series in a multiplex in 2001 and DCA in a multiplex in 2007 and so far not a single failure in either of these locations. I find though the overlove on the QSC to be something which cannot be explained. What really makes them the best? I can name a few other companies with better feature amplifiers like for example the Crown DSi Series. Not only they are excellent amps, budget friendly but they also incorporate very nice features like built in crossover network and some parametric eq minimizing the need for an external crossover network. I have not used these amps but I find this feature very interesting. Also the Crown XLS series are the most budget conservative amps. Still I am not saying that QSC are not excellent but I don't like the idea of everyone considering them the BEST because there are other excellent brands as well. Demetris
LOL Demetris, now who's taking the piss out of someone like you said to me in another thread? (I'm just havin fun with you, please don't get mad.)
To answer your question, the points I summarized above the quote are what makes QSC the best, so far. No one else has come close to matching them in all the categories I mentioned.
That is generally the criteria for determining the best in a given situation.
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Tony Bandiera Jr
Film God

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From: Moreland Idaho
Registered: Apr 2004
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posted 06-04-2010 12:44 PM
quote: Jeremy Weigel I've only had 2 of them die. Both were MXa2000's and they died violently. Sparks and smoke shot out the front. Luckily they didn't damage the speakers. I still have one of them and have been debating whether it is worth trying to fix it.
Jeremy, there was a bad run of MXa's that had a problem with the power switch and associated wiring. When it let go the forced air from the fan in concert with the natural dust build-up made for quite a show.
Contact QSC's service department with the amp's serial number, it is quite possible they will fix it at no charge if it was one of the affected lot. Even if not a warranty issue, their repair rates are very reasonable and I doubt the repair cost would exceed $300. A great deal for a fresh amp. (They check EVERYTHING when doing a repair and reset bias, etc. and replace any questionable parts.)
Stephen, I listed some points about Crown in my previous post and Steve and Sam pretty well recapped it. Crown, in terms of reliability and speaker protection when failing, sucks.
Scott, I would feel that 20-25 years is a good benchmark for amplifier life, but there are plenty of amps out there that are 30-40 years old and still running.
Main failure modes for older amps are the electrolytic caps which can dry out and fail after many years, sometimes bridge rectifiers go bad, level pots are the most common failure (and cheap to fix) but a bigger issue with really old amps is non-availability of semiconductors.
Never saw any Crest amps in cinemas, had one screening room with them, but they've been replaced with QSC's.
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