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John Pytlak
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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
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posted 09-11-2002 10:34 AM

Scott: are the mag striped prints new, or from the previous release? Last that I heard, there are only one or two small companies that still offer 70mm striping services due to the cost of meeting new environmental regulations for the solvents involved.

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Paul Linfesty
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From: Bakersfield, CA, USA
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posted 09-11-2002 11:33 AM

In R.A.M.T., the Sony distribution spokesman said all the new 70mm prints had DTS timecode. Several of these prints would, based on demand, be mag-striped (presumably covering up the DTS Time code). He mentioned that Pacific's Sittig had requested a mag print for the Dome.

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Darren Briggs
Master Film Handler

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From: York, UK
Registered: Dec 2001

posted 09-25-2002 04:27 PM

The follow up film to 'Lawrence of Arabia' for 70mm in York will probably be 'Spartacus' in mid to late September.

Tickets for 'Lawrence' are available now if any one in the U.k. wants to come,
Box office = 01904 541144

Cheers
Darren

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Dick Vaughan
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From: Bradford, West Yorkshire, UK
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posted 09-26-2002 02:47 AM

So Darren you are following up the October screening of LOA with a September screening of Spartacus? 11 month wait or have you invented time travel?

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Jan Hackett
Expert Film Handler

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From: Albuquerque, NM, USA
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posted 09-26-2002 12:36 PM

What format are these 70mm prints??? 5:70????

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John Pytlak
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posted 09-26-2002 12:41 PM

They are 5-perf 70mm, with either mag stripe (6 tracks) or time code for DTS digital:
http://www.widescreenmuseum.com/widescreen/lobby.htm

Projectable image area is specified by standard SMPTE 152.

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Darren Briggs
Master Film Handler

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From: York, UK
Registered: Dec 2001

posted 09-26-2002 02:00 PM

Dick ,
It was late when writting email, so my apologies,
Yes Hopefully a NOVEMBER screening!

By the way, ill be bringing the print of Hello Dolly across to you next week as im picking it up from our Cambridge Picture house in the next few days, so ill bring it over when i have it. Saving us securicor prices by picking 'Lawrence' and 'Dolly' up myself.
Multi talented you see us Yorkshire folk, projectionist, engineer, manager and delivery van driver!!
Ill try catch you next week when i bring the print across, maybe Friday morning.

Cya
Darren

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Karen Hultgren
Master Film Handler

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From: Agoura Hills, CA, USA
Registered: Mar 2000

posted 09-27-2002 11:29 AM

The LOA print at the Dome in L.A. is mag stripe only. You can have one or the other on 70mm = mag or DTS. There are other LOA prints around with DTS timecode.

Karen at DTS
khultgren@dtsonline.com

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Paul Linfesty
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posted 09-27-2002 05:46 PM

Karen

Couldn't you physically take a DTS 70mm print, though, and still mag stripe it? I realize it would cover up the Time Code and make it unplayable, but the mag tracks should still play fine.

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John Pytlak
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posted 09-28-2002 12:14 PM

Paul asked: "Couldn't you physically take a DTS 70mm print, though, and still mag stripe it? I realize it would cover up the Time Code and make it unplayable, but the mag tracks should still play fine."

Yes you could. If you KNEW ahead of time that the print would have mag sound, you might not print the DTS time code, because AFAIK, DTS requires a second pass through the printer for 70mm.

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Peter Kerchinsky
Master Film Handler

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From: Seattle, WA, USA
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posted 09-30-2002 04:29 AM

I saw the 70MM, DTS print of LAWRENCE at Seattle's Cinerama Theater tonight and have only one word to say about it all
INCREDIBLE!
I wish I looked that good at 40.

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Karen Hultgren
Master Film Handler

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posted 09-30-2002 01:53 PM

Paul,

I suppose you could have DTS timecode and have some mag tracks. The problem is that the timecode covers up the space where 3 of the mag tracks reside. The timecode (on DTS 70mm prints) is placed between the perfs and the film's edge. This allows the picture to accomidate the entire space between perfs.

The only space left is on the other side of the film and you could have only three tracks. That pretty much defeats the 6-track sound and I doubt that any film maker would choose to compromise their soundtrack in that way.

All it takes to playback a DTS 70mm print is a DTS player and a DTS 70mm reader head. The timecode on these prints is huge and many theaters run fine with no analog backup. The only challenge to playing a 70mm film is that some being released are quite long and it can be tough getting the whole print to run reliably on a platter.

Karen at DTS
khultgren@dtsonline.com

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Paul Linfesty
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From: Bakersfield, CA, USA
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posted 09-30-2002 03:32 PM

Karen

If the DTS timecode was between the sprockets and the outside film edge, wouldn't that only eliminate 2 tracks instead of three?

Basically, what I was thinking in my question (I apologize if I didn't ask this clearly) was that perhaps (just asking) that the LOA prints all had developed time codes on them, but that when special mag requests came through, they would take these prints that had already been printed with DTS timecode and mag stripe them, fully knowing this would rob the film of the DTS playback possibility. I have no idea if this is what they did or not. Supposedly it was done on some CDS 70mm prints.

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Per Hauberg
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From: Malling, Denmark
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posted 09-30-2002 06:36 PM

Placed as claimed in several posts, the dts can only collide with a single mag track !

Per

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Darren Briggs
Master Film Handler

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From: York, UK
Registered: Dec 2001

posted 10-04-2002 04:28 PM

Follow up to 'Lawrence of Arabia' Screening in York (U.K)
is going to be 'Spartacus' on the 3rd of November 2002.
December the 8th ther will be another, title TBC. (My fair lady possibly)

Darren

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