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Marin Zorica
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Hello!!!

Friend of mine did get one CA21...I understood everything on manuals except this:

relay outputs....I see function of relay, and corresponding connector and Pin, but that's one wire of relay contact. Where is other wire of relay contact connected, to ground or 24V DC?? I suppose on ground??

Also same question with input terminals?

thanks!

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Matt Hollis
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I'm pretty sure it's for the lights in the foyer. I think I've heard that when you order the automation you can have different labels on the buttons on the front for different theatre needs. Seems like a good idea to me.

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Steve Guttag
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Where did you get your CA21?

The CA21 in its raw form (no theatre interface panel that may be supplied by a company like Christie, or Kinoton if using an EMK-1) just has relays for outputs and optoisolators for inputs.

There should be a largish terminal block assembly that has two-tiers on it. For the relays you will see the relay terminal on the top tier as well as the bottom tier. So Relay 1 on the Top and on the Bottom are the contacts that will be connected when Relay 1 activates. I believe the first couple of relays can be set to be Normally closed rather than Normally open by soldering links around.

For the inputs, you are feeding an Optoisolator with some current limiting resistors. I know the Kinoton EMK-1 version is looking for 24-volts DC. By connecting the - terminal of the 24V supply to In1- and the + terminal of the 24V supply to In1+ you will activate input 1.

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Marin Zorica
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This is Christie CA21 Automation

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Brad Miller
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Marin, there are many different hardware versions of the CA21, and they all look the same on the front panel and are all called "CA21". There are also many different software versions loaded inside them. You are going to have to post everything written on the sticker on the back of your CA21 for us to figure out which hardware version you have, and then we have to go about a couple of different approaches to figure out what software just happens to be loaded into yours.

The CA21 is the most versatile automation out there, but you have to know what you are doing and so far you haven't given us anything worthwhile to assist you with.

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Marin Zorica
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quote: Brad Miller
The CA21 is the most versatile automation out there, but you have to know what you are doing and so far you haven't given us anything worthwhile to assist you with.
This automation isn't mine, and isn't here.....it's from mine friend, he just need automation of cinema like projector start, lights on/off, curtains open.....and connect that to standard system now what is made with pushbuttons mostly....

This are date from box:

S/N: 9803/730
TYPE: 60023

firmware on chip is 3 MAR 98

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Brad Miller
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Oh boy, you have a pre-CAPIO model. Is it revision A, B, C or D? Also is there anything else at all written on that eprom label? Do you have any idea what theater circuit it came out of?

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Marin Zorica
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quote: Brad Miller
Oh boy, you have a pre-CAPIO model. Is it revision A, B, C or D? Also is there anything else at all written on that eprom label? Do you have any idea what theater circuit it came out of?
Hi Brad!

Nothing more on eprom, just date. I don't have any other information about this, I didn't even saw it because is 1000Km from me, just doing favor for mine friend.

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Brad Miller
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My best guess would be that you have the "stock" Christie eprom in there if nothing else was written on that chip. I can tell you that piece of firmware is nothing to get excited over though. Download the manual from this site. That's as close to an exact manual for that machine you have that you will probably ever get.

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