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David Favel
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 764
From: Ashburton, New Zealand
Registered: Feb 2002

posted 11-04-2002 09:45 PM

One advantage I could see though is that the changeover public theatres would be obtaining their films from the screening room pool...probably a better crop of prints.

One would assume you are not talking of the screening room Brad got Frida from?

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Steve Kraus
Film God

Posts: 4094
From: Chicago, IL, USA
Registered: May 2000

posted 11-05-2002 12:20 AM

There's a screening room pool? Coulda fooled me!

There may be screening prints (for example, Sony Classics prints with a letter designation) but those are just as likely to have been plattered as any others. I wish there were a changeover-only pool.

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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

Posts: 12814
From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999

posted 11-05-2002 08:04 AM

Thats just it Steve...if the ELR divided the houses into platter and changeover...the changeover houses would not have to worry about the abuses of the large reel and platter buildups and tear downs. How many shoepolished prints have you seen that still have the leaders and tails attached without splices?

Now all is not perfect there...I did receive a print that was run only once and it was wasted at a home screening room that not only scratched the film on every other reel but oiled the living crap out of the print.

I had to call for a replacement print of a film that had been run once! And the room that damaged it was a higher-up person for the studio. A very uncomfortable position to be in, indeed!

Steve

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"Old projectionists never die, they just changeover!"

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Josh Kirkhart
Expert Film Handler

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From: Austin/Houston, TX, USA
Registered: Nov 2001

posted 11-05-2002 08:33 AM

Out on a limb...

I don't know how established the 6000 reel idea is, but wouldn't a 4000 reel do just as well. We would still lose a couple splices, and build up tables should be able to accomidate these well enough. The change over guys would still be screwed if they don't have a large enough cartridge on the projector. Seems a little more economic and you still cut your reel count in half, probably a little easier to ship as well.

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Steve Kraus
Film God

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From: Chicago, IL, USA
Registered: May 2000

posted 11-05-2002 10:31 AM

Actually I wouldn't mind running 6000' reels. I do have a clearance problem but I've managed before by re-angling the upper arms; perhaps a reworking of the suspended ceiling would be in order if this ever came to pass. Given how poorly many films are edited nowadays in terms of C/O operation it might make for a smoother show.

I would bet that a lot of the 20 min reel C/O houses that "cannot" handle large reels could with a bit of ingenuity, especially for the feed (reel on the floor behind each machine, reel crosswise on the wall to the left of the left and right of the right, etc.). There will be some where nothing practical will work but I'll bet those are few in number.

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Gordon McLeod
Film God

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From: Toronto Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 99

posted 11-05-2002 10:59 AM

Considering that the Norelcos can't hold a 6000' reel even with the covers removed (it could be done by shimming up the head slightly) 4000 or 5000' would be better

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