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Dustin Mitchell
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Mondovi, WI, USA
Registered: Mar 2000


 - posted 11-14-2002 12:38 AM      Profile for Dustin Mitchell   Email Dustin Mitchell   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
By plugging the motor in though I run into the same problem. I think what Paul is suggesting is that I 'hot wire' the motor to bypass the bad diode.


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Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man

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From: Mount Vernon WA USA
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 - posted 11-14-2002 12:52 AM      Profile for Paul G. Thompson   Email Paul G. Thompson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Exactly. Use a jumper clip to bypass the diode. Since that motor is an AC/DC motor, you can also power it up with a car battery, and it'll run - but not very fast. It is a good way to check the integrety of the motor.

If you want to try Daryl's method, you can...but be VERY careful. If the motor field or armature is shorted, you could damage the variac in the MUT if you gave the motor "too much balls". That's why I didn't suggest it.


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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from)
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 - posted 11-14-2002 01:04 AM      Profile for Daryl C. W. O'Shea   Author's Homepage   Email Daryl C. W. O'Shea   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yeah, I was just eating my dinner now and realized I had a bit of a brain gap there. Totally forgot about the variac in the table. How I don't know. If you have the ability to directly wire the motor go for it, if you're stuck (and you've got a spare MUT) try the MUT.

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Paul G. Thompson
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Been there, Daryl....I have had brain gaps, too...more than once!


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Ken Layton
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From: Olympia, Wash. USA
Registered: Sep 1999


 - posted 11-14-2002 01:25 AM      Profile for Ken Layton   Email Ken Layton   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Dustin:

I have forwarded the photos and info to you via email.

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Dustin Mitchell
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Thank you very much Ken.

Overall this has turned out very well, I should be able to have this deck going in time for Harry Potter.

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Lance C. McFetridge
Expert Film Handler

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From: Penn Yan, New York
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 - posted 11-14-2002 06:52 AM      Profile for Lance C. McFetridge   Email Lance C. McFetridge   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi,
Would the part number for the grainger motor be the same for a Potts 3 Alpha? I see where they list several models. Do the Strong and the Potts use the same motor?
thanks
lance

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Ken Layton
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 - posted 11-14-2002 08:47 AM      Profile for Ken Layton   Email Ken Layton   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Lance:

Yes, the same Grainger motor 2M262 is used on Potts and Strong.

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Lance C. McFetridge
Expert Film Handler

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Thanks Ken,
I appreciate the help.
lance

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Pat Moore
Master Film Handler

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 - posted 11-14-2002 09:27 AM      Profile for Pat Moore   Email Pat Moore   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm pretty sure Ken knows more on the platter than most, so trust him. Makes me miss the Northwest at times...

Pat

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Dustin Mitchell
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Ok, I'm stumped. How the hell do you replace the diode? Everything seems to be in the way and I can't figure out how to get it out of there.

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Dustin Mitchell
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Just for clarification sake, Dan was always available to take my questions. I didn't post this on Film-Tech because he is a poor tech or hard to get a hold of, in fact the exact opposite is true, he is very knowledgable and thorough tech and available via cell phone at a moments notice.

The reason I posted this here is because it is easier for me to follow instructions when they are written. Posting on this board also enables me to see pictures and diagrams of how things should be done. I just thought doing it this way would be easier.

Just to clarify.

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Ken Layton
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I've always used a small ignition wrench set (from SEARS) to unbolt the diode and of course a soldering iron and solder sucker. If it's too cramped for you work in the motor shell then carefully drill out the pop rivet that attaches the plastic L-bracket that holds the diode.

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Paul G. Thompson
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Be sure to use the new mica insulators and the new plastic spacer, too if the "L" bracket is made of metal. You certainly do not want any part of that diode case referenced to ground.

Ken, is that bracket plastic or metal?


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Ken Layton
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Paul:

All the diode brackets I have seen have been made of a piece of ABS plastic formed into an "L" shape.

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