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Robert Harris
Film Handler

Posts: 95
From: Bedford Hills, NY, USA
Registered: May 2003

posted 08-28-2003 08:30 PM

Are you quite certain that this is "red," as in faded, or might it be one of the original prints which had a very sepia look to it.

What is the edge code?

RAH

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Jesse August
Film Handler

Posts: 58
From: Vancouver British Columbia
Registered: Jul 2003

posted 08-28-2003 08:31 PM

A couple of years ago we had a print of "Phantom of the Paradise". It was so red it was almost un watchable. Not to mention that in three runs (weekend midnight movie) it broke a total of twelve times. I have yet to encounter a print as brittle since. just one of my horror stories.

jesse

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John Pytlak
Film God

Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000

posted 08-29-2003 05:48 AM

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A couple of years ago we had a print of "Phantom of the Paradise". It was so red it was almost un watchable. Not to mention that in three runs (weekend midnight movie) it broke a total of twelve times. I have yet to encounter a print as brittle since. just one of my horror stories.

When multiple things are wrong like that (e.g., severe fading, brittle, shrunken, vinegar smell), it's likely the storage conditions were really bad. A hot, humid warehouse is NOT the best place to store film, but that's what often passed as a film exchange.

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Michael Schaffer
"Where is the
Boardwalk Hotel?"

Posts: 4143
From: Boston, MA
Registered: Apr 2002

posted 08-29-2003 06:54 AM

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System long gone by, I believe.

I am not sure. I saw the logo on several Asian prints (of recent movies) we played at the Berlin Film Festival last year. I also think I saw it in the credits of some Asian DVDs I watched in the last couple of months.

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Jeff Taylor
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 601
From: Chatham, NJ/East Hampton, NY
Registered: Apr 2000

posted 08-29-2003 07:38 AM

Mr. Harris made a very good point. Many scenes of Godfather 1 and 2, especially the interiors and flashbacks, had a very noticeable sepia tone (the interiors of the Long Island home are especially noticeable), and it's widely known that Coppola pressured Technicolor to keep the dye transfer lines open until the initial print run of G2 was complete as he felt he could get the best control over this subtle "look" to the film. Still if the outdoor scenes, which were never as spectacularly colorful as many films, show brown grass and trees you certainly have to look at actual fading as the culprit.

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Michael Brown
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1522
From: Bradford, England
Registered: May 2001

posted 08-29-2003 08:53 AM

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quote:System long gone by, I believe.

I am not sure. I saw the logo on several Asian prints (of recent movies) we played at the Berlin Film Festival last year. I also think I saw it in the credits of some Asian DVDs I watched in the last couple of months.

and I assume DTS stereo was used on those movies that have a DTS digital track but no Dolby. (like Legally Blond, Anti-trust and other non-dolby MGM movies)

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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."

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From: Lawton, OK, USA
Registered: Apr 2001

posted 08-29-2003 11:52 AM

I thought the 1997 re-release (25th Anniversary) of "The Godfather" had Dolby Digital, DTS Digital Sound and Dolby SR optical on the print. I never saw the release myself to verify it, but I specifically remember seeing a trailer for it where the DTS Digital Sound logo (not DTS Stereo) was prominently displayed. I think Coppola might be a DTS fan since I saw the same ad treatments on "Apocalypse Now Redux" trailers.

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Paul Linfesty
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Bakersfield, CA, USA
Registered: Nov 1999

posted 08-29-2003 09:15 PM

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I thought the 1997 re-release (25th Anniversary) of "The Godfather" had Dolby Digital, DTS Digital Sound and Dolby SR optical on the print.

Yes, that is correct. Both digital soundtracks Bobby mentions were used for this re-issue. There was a really distracting echo effect added to the dialog in the film.

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