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Lindsay Morris
Expert Film Handler

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From: Darlington, WA, Australia
Registered: Sep 2002


 - posted 11-30-2002 02:50 AM      Profile for Lindsay Morris   Email Lindsay Morris   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Robert,

I guess you may intend running 6 & 7mm combinations in your planned theatre or maybe even 7 & 8mm if you reckon you need more light.Both these size combinations of carbons are still currently available from Japan.
I do not know exactly where in Japan as I purchase mine from Carbon Imports in Christchurch New Zealand at a very good price compared to what I used to pay buying them over the counter in Australia.
I used to use Marble/Double Eagle but the price went thru the roof a few years ago so I tried out a batch from NZ and could find no difference between them and Marble so switched over.
These are called Sunny Carbons and made by Daiichi Carbon Co Japan.
If anything the burn rate is a little slower than Marble used to be but even when I deliberately mixed them up in the box, so I never really knew what was on the screen, there was no discernable difference.
With 6 & 7mm at just under 50 amps on a 10m scope screen the light is brilliant.
If you cannot find a source to import these in the states email me and I will give you contact details of Carbon Imports... only has snail mail still I think.

Lindsay

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Steve Kraus
Film God

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From: Chicago, IL, USA
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Sorry, but everytime I see this topic I think it should say "The Crater of National Carbons!" [Smile]

I still have a baby arc lamp. Strong...approx 8" reflector...single screw drive...uncoated carbons.

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Daryl Lund
Film Handler

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From: Chehalis,WA, USA
Registered: Feb 2000


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John Is the national carbon rod plant for sale? Dose it take a lot of space and what about the EPA do thay screw with national? I think that it would be cool to move the plant to the NW.I own a couple of big buildings that could house National. But I do not how big of a building it would take.

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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99


 - posted 12-01-2002 12:45 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
I have compared xenon to carbon light over the years and have come to the conclusion that carbon provides a "warmer" light with more vivid colors than xenon which, IMO, is a "cold" blue light.
Consider purchasing a Strong xenon lamphouse and specifically request a 5000K or 5200K reflector. I can't say for sure, but I'll bet Strong would work with you to specifically send you a reflector in that ballpark. You'll get that pretty "warm" light you like.

I've got a brand new condition 5200K reflector for a Super Lume X (only used 100 hours) if anyone wants to trade for an equivalent condition 5600K or 5800K. I'll pay shipping both ways and drop a Film-Tech T shirt into the deal too. I find the "warm" look very much "blah".

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Tim Reed
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From: Northampton, PA
Registered: Sep 1999


 - posted 12-01-2002 12:58 AM      Profile for Tim Reed   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Is the national carbon rod plant for sale? Dose it take a lot of space
Pictures I've seen of the pitch plant look like it occupied 10-20 acres alone. However, if you're thinking of contracting the manufacture out, the "new" National Carbon Co. could be nothing more fancy than several heavy-duty shelves in a corner of your home. [Wink]

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John Pytlak
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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
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Issue #10 of the National Carbon Bulletins shows how carbons were made at their plant in Fostoria, Ohio:

http://www.film-tech.com/manuals/CARBONBULLETINS.pdf

Lots of testing to assure quality (they even were x-rayed to look for internal defects).

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Robert E. Allen
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From: Checotah, Oklahoma
Registered: Jul 2002


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Thanks for the replys guys. And I'll keep that in mind Lindsay and Brad. Look forward to hearing from you Gordon.

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