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Brad Miller
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Posts: 17775
From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99

posted 12-03-2002 02:45 PM

I noticed that whatever movie that is, it is a Deluxe Hollywood print. Since they are so cinchy about their tail leader length, if any one of those 3 reels in the right can came "tails out", then that would be a reject reel right there from the shipping damage.

Perhaps this should be sent to Deluxe too! After all, it's TES nonsense like this that is costing Deluxe money in reprints.

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Tom Doyle
Expert Film Handler

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From: Bristol, CT, USA
Registered: Nov 2002

posted 12-03-2002 10:00 PM

Actually, I think prints can end up that way not on purpose, but just from the shipping method. I'd say maybe 1/3rd of the prints that come to my theater look like that (we're sub-run). It is caused by carelessness on the part of the 'inspector' or previous film handler. The end of the film is not secured properly to the reel, which doesn't seem like a big deal. However, they put that can on its side and haul it by truck, plane, whatever. After a while, even slight bumpiness over time will cause the loose ends to settle on one side of the can. Stand it back up and open it - it looks like someone wrapped the heads around on each other. I witnessed this myself after hauling a print in my trunk for about an hour.

You'd know if it was done on purpose - I've seen that as well. We once got a print where someone taped the end of one reel to another reel and then wound it many times onto that reel. The best way I could describe it to technicolor was that it looked like a cassette tape - one long piece on two reels. We couldn't find the ends. It took us longer to build up the film than to actually show it!

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Frank Angel
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From: Brooklyn NY USA
Registered: Dec 1999

posted 12-08-2002 12:43 PM

We started using large, commercial rubberbands for our archive collection. They work every well, but in the rough-and-tumble world of the projection booth and shipping depots,where people cannot figure out how to tape down the film end or wrap a reel band arond the reel correctly, the rubberband might not be of much help. Problem with it is that if you don't take the time to center it, it can slip between the film and the reel flange, doing no good whatsoever. There is also the question of whether or not the pressure exerted by the band itself will eventually cause a deformation in the film wraps close to the top of the reel. That might occur if a band was chosen which was too small for the reel size. So far (we have been using them for over two years now) they have caused no deformation at all, but it was a concern when we first started using them. Bottom line is, they can be used inappropriately just as are reel bands in the hands of people with neuron-synapse deficency.

Frank

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John Pytlak
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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000

posted 12-09-2002 09:17 AM

Problems with using rubber bands include deterioration of the rubber with age, causing them to become brittle or sticky. Rubber also may contain sulfur compounds, which will harm film images in long-term storage. And as Frank notes, the pressure of the rubber band may cause physical deformation of the film.

"Bands" made of inert cardboard or film base still are the best choice for securing the outside of a reel.

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