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John Hawkinson
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 - posted 12-09-2002 12:02 PM      Profile for John Hawkinson   Email John Hawkinson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Incidently, John, how do you recommend measuring the positions of features on film? When I last tried this, I reached moderate success using the step measurement feature of a caliper from the reference edge, but there was a fair bit of inaccuracy.

Perhaps a ruler under a microscope would be better?

Any "tricks"?

--jhawk

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John Pytlak
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 - posted 12-09-2002 12:43 PM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Edmund Scientific and other suppliers carry loupes and measuring microscopes useful for making such measurements:

http://www.scientificsonline.com/EC/Products/Display.cfm?categoryid=192739

http://www.scientificsonline.com/EC/Products/Display.cfm?categoryid=192742

http://www.scientificsonline.com/ec/Products/Display.cfm?CategoryID=192683

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Karen Hultgren
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 - posted 12-09-2002 12:51 PM      Profile for Karen Hultgren   Author's Homepage   Email Karen Hultgren   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
John,

If you choose to fiddle with the lateral adjustment, you can do so wothout a scope. Just turn slowly and then the other to find the "center". Be aware that if you compensate for this one film, you may need to do it again for others. It's best not to touch the laternal adjustment if it has been fine for other features.

You should also check the voltage of the reader's LED. There is tech notice for that on our free online techcnter Or, I can email it to you if you send me an email and request it.

If one reel of the film is bad, then you need to replace that reel.

Karen at DTS
khultgren@dtsonline.com

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John Pytlak
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The measuring microscope/loupe would only be used to check the actual position of the time code track on the film, not to adjust the equipment. It would be unusual for a printing problem to affect ALL the reels, since they are printed one at a time, often on a different printer for each reel.

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John T. Hendrickson, Jr
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 - posted 12-09-2002 08:47 PM      Profile for John T. Hendrickson, Jr   Email John T. Hendrickson, Jr   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks, Karen, but I generally subscribe to the "if it's not broken, don't fix it" school of thought. Since neither of these units has given us any problems, I'm hesitant to play with the lateral adjustment, for as you say, I'll probably have to do it again once these two prints leave their respective houses.

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Karen Hultgren
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 - posted 12-16-2002 03:04 PM      Profile for Karen Hultgren   Author's Homepage   Email Karen Hultgren   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
An update, we just got a sample of ANALYZE THAT film and the DTS track looks very bad. If any of you still have a print with drop-out problems, could you please send me the print number(s)?

Thanks! Karen at DTS
khultgren@dtsonline.com

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