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Author Topic: Sound in Tears of the Sun Josh Kirkhart Expert Film Handler Posts: 165 From: Austin/Houston, TX, USA Registered: Nov 2001 posted 03-12-2003 01:14 AM                     Some of those seen are supposed to be dark. The movie was beautifull and if you have a bad shutter or dim screen shame on you. It is to give you an idea how dark the jungle is(no streetlamps).  |  IP: Logged Jack Ondracek Film God Posts: 2348 From: Port Orchard, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2002 posted 03-12-2003 10:46 AM                        quote: Some of those seen are supposed to be dark... Well, I guess we're going to find out how good our systems are! Our booker told us we'll be opening one of our outdoor screens with it on the 21st. Guess I'd better get a bigger generator & vitamins for the squirrels!  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 03-12-2003 07:28 PM                     I saw a behind-the-scenes program on Starz! earlier today and the footage looked better than what I remember seeing in the theatre. It doesn't sound as if too many of you out there are getting a sparkling, dazzling image on-screen, so I'm not about to go cranking up the Xenon lamp. Besides, I know from experience that brightness, contrast and saturation values are sometimes manipulated for TV.  |  IP: Logged Josh Kirkhart Expert Film Handler Posts: 165 From: Austin/Houston, TX, USA Registered: Nov 2001 posted 03-13-2003 04:21 AM                     What would you CRANK up, you should not have to change anything. If your bulb is focused, shutter timed, lights at show level and you measure about 16-17 or more in footlamberts across the screen all should be well. You don't go cranking because you think its dim in some spots, take in the whole show and see what the differences are like. The end of the movie can be very bright, especially in comparison to those early jungle seens. Yes it dazzled on my screen, thought it was beautifull. Comparing the brightness of a picture tube and a properly run Film show are nowhere near each other. The director has no final say on how thier film looks in the tv promos, they do have a say in that film sitting over on the platter. I'm sure you know all this, just felt like rambling.  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 03-13-2003 07:16 AM                        In almost all cases, release prints are approved in lab screening rooms set up per standard SMPTE 196M, with an aim screen luminance of 16 footlamberts. If you maintain 16 footlamberts on your screen, you are getting the results the cinematographer and director intended. The standard does allow a range of 12 to 22 footlamberts for theatres, but 16 footlamberts is the aim: http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/newsletters/pytlak/spring98.shtml http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/newsletters/pytlak/oct2001.shtml http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/newsletters/pytlak/march2000.shtml  |  IP: Logged Don Bruechert Mmmmmmmmm, bird! Posts: 340 From: Manitowoc, WI, USA Registered: Jan 2003 posted 03-13-2003 09:02 AM                        Since we completely changed the direction of this topic, I suppose I should add in my 2 cents on the new direction. Being a photographer I know how hard it is to work with dark subjects, and they did an excellent job of it. I also know that the jungle is not a bright and happy place, and is generally dark and murky due to the canopy overhead - so that would contribute to reduced light levels as well. I thought it looked good on the screen we have it on, and I don't think that is the brightest screen we have in the place. A good level of indication of how things are going if you have people in dark scenes is to look at teeth if someone smiles...  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 03-13-2003 03:53 PM                     ...Too bad this wasn't a more cheerful movie or they could've worked in a few more smiles for us...  |  IP: Logged System Notices Forum Watchdog / Soup Nazi Posts: 215 Registered: Apr 2004 posted 07-15-2005 11:03 AM                 It has been 854 days since the last post.  |  IP: Logged Andy Summers Master Film Handler Posts: 397 From: Bournemouth Dorset United kingdom Registered: Jun 2005 posted 07-15-2005 11:03 AM                 “Tears of the Sun” had a wonderful sound design mix, you have to remember that real weaponry is very loud I’m just say for a single machine gun it will be around well over 100dba weighting. If a gun was fired in doors it would very loud, if it was fired out in the desert it would be quieter. As for the weaponry sound effects, it was more low end bass feel in the film as I can remember, and it was far more better in the home cinema too, that assault on the village where the seal team goes in is dame tense, the LFE was so deep down at around 25Hz pulsing stuff too slamming into your chest, though the napalm was there highest sound in the film as film mixers like to use the largest sound for the final on the bad guys KABOOM…..  |  IP: Logged

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