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Neil McGovern
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From: Sheffield, UK
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 - posted 03-16-2003 09:21 PM      Profile for Neil McGovern   Author's Homepage   Email Neil McGovern   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
And in the UK, the very first thing you see on ALL prints is the BBFC certificate (which, coincidently, is excellent for telling if a film is in 'scope, and for that final focus before feature).

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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Randy, you're forgetting about the films that are still flashing opening titles by the fourth reel!

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Randy Stankey
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So, does that mean the yellow bands are like brackets? Y'Know...
<Yellow Band> Credits </Yellow Band> ??

[Big Grin]

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John Pytlak
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I recall that Deluxe Laboratories proposed an edgeprint color coding method for reels years ago, that they called "ColorReel". Unfortunately, Sony SDDS and Dolby Digital now occupy most of the areas where edgeprinting was used. Not all release printers are capable of edgeprinting.

The SDDS tracks are printed from a B&W sound negative, so any written information on the track would be the same color as the printed SDDS track.

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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I've got a Deluxe Coloreel wallchart somewhere, probably from the early 80's. It describes its purpose and refers only to coloured head (and maybe tail) leaders.

I'll take a picture or scan it if I can find it.

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Don E. Nelson
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If the name of the movie is Momento, or Betrayal (1983) or any number of other films that are filmed backward ***, it really doesn't matter which reel orientation you use, the film will be just as confusing and people like me will come back to see the film again to try and figure it out.

And then, some of those same people, like me will take the video release and edit the scenes in proper order, just to see what the script looked like in the first place.

*** backward meaning a central plot device of starting at the latest point in time and have successive scenes show what came earlier, until when the movie ends, the story has just begun. and vice versa.

Does anyone know if the DVD release of Momento, includes a re-edited version with the scenes in chronological order.
[Eek!]

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Bill Gabel
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Its one of the features of the Limited Edition version of "Memento" .

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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 - posted 07-27-2003 02:14 AM      Profile for Daryl C. W. O'Shea   Author's Homepage   Email Daryl C. W. O'Shea   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I finally found the booth that had the Coloreel chart.

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Deluxe sticks to it to this day, and I still use it.

I think I'm going to call and order some more, just too see if they ask if my head is on right. It says to call to order more.

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Aaron Sisemore
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I don't think Deluxe ever used brown as their color for reel 8- All Deluxe (Hollywood) reel 8's I have seen were yellow-cyan-magenta in an alternating pattern.

Reel 9 was alternating cyan-black-clear

Reel 10 was alternating yellow-magenta-clear

I have never seen a Deluxe print with more than ten reels, so I cannot say what they would use for 11-12-13, etc.

-Aaron

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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All Deluxe Toronto prints follow the chart. I get brown leaders all the time, well as often as I get 8 reel prints.

Deluxe Toronto starts over with yellow, etc., when they hit reel 9.

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Frank Angel
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First thing Monday, I will call up Duart and ask for a couple. What will they think if everyone on the forum did the same? They are in a Time Warp? [Big Grin]

Frank

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