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John Hawkinson
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 - posted 03-23-2003 09:22 AM      Profile for John Hawkinson   Email John Hawkinson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
OK, I buy your argument that a digital intermediate film might as well use the full width. And I guess, if you're going to do that, you would get the maximum possible benefit if you used an anamorphic such that the entire height of the frame could be used.

What's the full Super35 frame? Let's say 937x735? That's a native aspect ratio of 1.27:1, so so applying a 1.45x squeeze would get you 1.85:1 optimally. It seems unlikely that 1.45x anamorphics are commonly available, and if Frida used a 1.45x or 1.5x anamorphic, you'd think it would be Big News (tm).

Steve, do you have 1.5x anamorphics for these weird-ass dailies?

--jhawk

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Steve Kraus
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 - posted 03-23-2003 10:36 AM      Profile for Steve Kraus     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Huh? Where are you getting this business about anamorphic photography? Super 35, as the term is customarily used, does not involve anamorphic lenses for original photography whether intended for Scope or Super 1.85 or anything else.

Super 1.85 means shooting the full width, composing the image to a 1.85 shape, and later a slight optical reduction and re-centering. Likewise one could do Super 1.66 or shoot a full 1.33 silent frame and convert to a 1.37 Academy sound frame.

So no oddball anamorphic projection lenses although I suppose if pressed I could whip out a couple of old Panatar prism units.

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John Hawkinson
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Again, Steve, the American Cinematographer article asserts Frida was shot in "Anamorphic 1.85:1". (This is in the summary box at the end of page 4). Using oddball anamorphics is the only way I can make sense of that, unless it's simply an error (which seems likely).

The clincher against this (aside from Occam's Razor and sheer implausibility) is that they didn't know they were doing to do DI before they started shooting, and it seems unlikely they would have adopted a format that would have required them to do either DI or optical printing.

--jhawk

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