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Author Topic: Why remove 1st head and last tail? Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 03-22-2003 10:08 AM                     Some theatres cut off the tail right after the last frame they want to show so as not to ever hear the "Tail out" noise. In some cases they don't cue (or possibly have an automation beyond a simple failsafe)...so there is a brief second of white screen...then the fail safe takes over. Steve  |  IP: Logged John Scott Master Film Handler Posts: 252 From: Oakdale, MN, USA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 03-22-2003 10:25 AM                     At my previous theatre, we used to cut off the tails because the theatre had Christie ELF platters.  |  IP: Logged William Leland III Master Film Handler Posts: 336 From: Charleston, SC, Registered: Aug 2002 posted 03-22-2003 03:45 PM                        When I was first learning to build up prints, I would always cut off the last tail. Why? I was trained that way. It never dawned on me to leave it on. I soon stopped cutting the tail off. Leave the tail on. Why would some leave the head of reel 1 on? Am I missing something? I can't think of a reason anyone would leave head of reel 1 on.  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 03-22-2003 04:01 PM                     I can't tell you how many projectionists I've had to convince that the tail should be preserved and cared for as though it were part of the actual show. Unfortunately, some still aren't convinced. Lots of movies got the tail ripped off because they left the tail taped down or something stupid and lame like that. At least they're not shutting the dowser on the credits anymore.  |  IP: Logged Bruce Hansen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 847 From: Stone Mountain, GA, USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 03-22-2003 04:03 PM                     Splice some white (or other light color) leader to the end of the film's tail leader, and use a felt tip pen to write the info on it. This way you don't even need tape. I've never liked the idea of running that piece of tape through the gate, over, and over.  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 03-22-2003 04:27 PM                        We had one of those hand-held label printers. It was very practical because you could print out small and easily readable labels which would easily pass through the gate and never peeled off.  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 03-22-2003 04:37 PM                     So long as the tape is not touching the edges that drag through the pressure plate, everything will be just fine. All that lightstruck leader is gonna cost $$$ and my experience is that'd be the first thing to get cut from the budget if/when the money people find out that you're going through rolls quickly because you're writing directly onto it instead of re-using it. I have a Brother P-Touch as well as a Casio label printer and I thought it would be cute to have neat labels like that but they would not stick reliably to the film.  |  IP: Logged Bruce Hansen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 847 From: Stone Mountain, GA, USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 03-23-2003 03:40 PM                     You don't need lightstruck leader for this purpose, white painted leader is fine, and costs about $22.00 for 1000'.  |  IP: Logged Neil McGovern Film Handler Posts: 35 From: Sheffield, UK Registered: May 2002 posted 03-25-2003 08:44 AM                        William> quote: Why would some leave the head of reel 1 on? If they were using a crossover system, with Adverts/Trailers on a seperate reel, it would be left on to protect the print.  |  IP: Logged

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