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Leo Enticknap
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From: Loma Linda, CA
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 - posted 03-29-2003 05:01 AM      Profile for Leo Enticknap   Author's Homepage   Email Leo Enticknap   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Darren - if you want a hand with webshites I might be persuded in exchange for beverage or two. I recently had to do one for the archive because having one was a condition for one of our funders for next year. So, armed only with a £5.99 'HMTL for Beginners' job, I went to work!

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Per Hauberg
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Hey, Darren

Please give a word or two about print condition on "Raiders"

Per [eyes]

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Stephen Furley
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Leo wrote, about Dufay:

quote:

it's probably the most durable three-colour subtractive system

Leo, Dufay is additive, unless they also produced a subtractive version which I haven't seen.

I find the reseau rather distracting on 9.5 and 16mm Dufay, but the colour can be good,

I did once see some 35mm, material, I'm not sure whether it was neg-pos, or pos-pos reversal, I assume it wasn't original camera material, It looked very good, but I've no idea how they got the reseau to line up on the print; it must have taken some doing.

Another impressive colour process I saw was a brief demonstration of a Fox lenticular process given by Grant Lobban. It was similar to the original Kodacolor, and used a stripe filter on the lens.

There's a problem with early colour, while a modern chromogenic copy can look good, it often looks different to the original, and original nitrate materials are not going to last forever, and are now getting very difficult to show. I did get to see just a minute or so of cemented technicolour recently.

You probably could run 16mm Dufay on a 35mm tower, but I wouldn't really recommend it. (desparately trying to keep on topic for the thread [Smile] )

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Leo Enticknap
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quote:
Leo, Dufay is additive, unless they also produced a subtractive version which I haven't seen.
In the context of comparing it with Kodachrome, I was referring to the subtractive system. AFAIK, it didn't work very well, hence its use on only one feature. I'll look up my notes on this at work tomorrow.

Raiders print condition: it's gone a bit pink, just enough to be a little bit distracting, IMHO, but nothing like as bad as some Eastman prints from the '60s and '70s. The odd tramline for a minute or two in places and the reel ends are a bit tatty for around 50-100 feet around each join, but otherwise in very good physical condition. Soundtrack lovely, very clear HF and sharp channel separation.

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Darren Briggs
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Per,
Print contidion of Raiders.
Colour has started to fade pink a touch, there is a tram line on the right hand side of the image near the edge, and the odd tramline comes and goes, but compared to the 35mm prints available in the UK, the 70mm is immaculate.
SOund is amazing, no drop out's and is a great example of why its a good idea to blow 35mm up to 70mm for the amazing imapct of 70mm un-compressed sound.

Late show on Sat sold out and the sunday matinee was over half full.

Darren

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