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Paul Linfesty
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I saw the WB 140 minute cut version at the Bing Theatre in the summer of 1992. It was definitely a 70mm print projected (this was part of a "70mm 6-track" festival (print from Swank). it was to celebrate the "re-birth" of 70mm (with the summer release of FAR AND AWAY) AND to utilize the revamped equipment at the Bing.

I dont think anyone meant to say that seperates were NEVER made, just that they think they may no longer exist. And I do admit that I'm going from other people's statements, and those could be wrong.

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Stephen Furley
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Claude wrote:

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What was the sound format on the 35mm print that ran in London recently? Was it mono or four track mag? I doubt there are any Dolby A prints of this movie because it was never re released to theatres after Dolby Stereo was introduced.

Claude, I know this is going to sound silly, but I can't remember what sound format that print had.

If I remember correctly, it was shown as part of a festival of Technicolor prints at the NFT. I saw several films within a few days, some were stereo, some mono, but I can't remember which this was.

I do remember that I hadn't intended to go, but, at the last minute, I was able to get away from work early, and so, was able to see it. at the Box Office I was advised that the print they would be screening was a few minutes shorter than the version they hoped to obtain, but I don't know what was cut, I've only seen the film once before, on television, several decades ago.

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Gordon McLeod
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In the early 80's it played at the University theatre in toronto in 70mm and it was format 41 on the CP100
It was during its 2 month run that the theatre converted to Vic8 from the Bauer U2's

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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"I simply do not understand the whole thing:
"Lawrence" has been a huge succes, everytime it has been screened since restore, "Spartacus" did well, "My Fair Lady" and so on. Yet, one film after another is forgotten to fade or chumble away in deep waults. If those great films - read: masterpieces - should not be kept and preserved in respect to the people, who made them - then at least in respect to the allmighty dollar, which Hollywood may understand better than the artistic way."
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If a new 70mm print of "Sound Of Music" played in Salt Lake City its run would probably last at least 6 months and net millions.

For some reason all movie execs seem really blind to all of this possibility....The profits would certainly make a nice bonus for some exec at years end....
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Claude S. Ayakawa
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It is very encouraging to hear that the 24 fps and 30 fps original 65mm negatives of "AROUND THE WORLD IN 80 DAYS" can be restored and someday soon, the picture might emerge again to entertain a new generation. I have always owned the badly cropped laserdisc of the movie but it is very paiful to watch because of the badly cropped image. I cannot believe it was cut because some had felt it was too old fashioned for today's modern taste. If this is true, why was "GONE WITH THE WIND" re released with it's original 219 minute running time a few years ago? Like "GONE WITH THE WIND", "AROUND THE WORLD IN 80 DAYS is also a cherished classic and should be seen in it's original running tome. When I first saw the movie at the Kaiser Dome theatre during it's premiere road show engagement, I felt it was too short.

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Jeff Joseph
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Phil:

Ah yes, the Swank print. Our screening at the Bing was in the late 80's; you're referring to a different screening...

Yeah, that print is/was 24fps 70mm and the very cut version. Also, 1 or 2 reels are a blow up from 35mm neg. Don't recall the reason... That print still exists as well (in private hands).

Jeff

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Per Hauberg
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Claude:

I think, the cut version of Around the World was a panic move from distributors, believing that the film only would have chances with very young audiences - who definitely would find it boring after seeing actionfilms, edited as vere they music-videos.
CRUEL !!
I too look foreward to the day, we see a completely restored film, prefereably in 70mm, but danish distributors hate that format. -Understandable, as only 3 or 4 theaters all still equipped for running. -And our good collegue Orla Nielsen of Aalborg is the only one, really to do something about it. I'm afraid it's hopeless to dream on. - But OK - a really class one Scope print with a set of dts discs would be nice too, and as it for sure never will be a 3.000+ prints release, it might just be something worth looking at, which is more than You can say about most film prints today. Second and third generation duplicates are not the prescription to hold onto audiences, if You ask me. Going on with this print quality, will only be another excuse for ordinary movie-goers to convert for dvd.

GWTW on the contrary, must still have an audience in most markets, without even the most commercially framed distributor being in doubt as to cut or not to cut... But please - never more a 70mm blow-up from that one. Love the film, but in the original 1,37 version please - no grain - no fake masking - no fake sound - and not 13 reels of push-up job twice a day !

You say somewhere, you don't understand someone are still drawling about the dying away 70mm -Don't You take out the Hasselblad now and then to special jobs, because You just love it - even if the digital stuff is fine ? We have seen some of Your great work in these forums, but i'm not the one to estimate, whether those pretty ladies or the impressing outdoors would have been better or not in digital versus the Hasselblad version. -Does it really get up there, when printing in large format ? - I sure am curious. I am still running around with a 20 year old Canon T-70, which fully covers my everyday needs, but somewhere in a closet sits a much older two-eyed middle-format Yashica 124-G - in a pro's eyes very much a plaything, i guess. I take it out once in a while and get really fine slides, -that is, if mother nature is with me, with bright sun and so...

This summer, it is four years since i had the last pair of worn 70mm prints running (Out of Africa and Baraka), -before those two it was the reissue of Spartacus ten years ago or so, but the DP's are ready, and so am i - still not to give up the hope !

Per

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Steve Kraus
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If only you meant DP's as in Directors of Photography (i.e. cinematographers), not DP's as in DP70 projectors.

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Paul Vollmers
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Two years ago I saw 2001 in 70mm at the Seattle Cinerama Theater.....I was blown away.
Now, only to see Around The World In 80 Days again in 70mm.....would be another wonderful experance!

We need to fire up more of those Norelco DP70's

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Paul,
We just got in 23 DP-70's and are in the process of rebuilding 8 of them for a local all DP-70 8 plex [Smile] I just finished stripping down serial number 900 before I came home for the day.
We basically got the entire Florida dealers stock of them and all of his parts inventory as well. We intend to be able to keep them running for a long, long time....hopefully they will see some 70mm in the years to come [Cool]
Mark

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Bill Gabel
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Mark

Don't forget Thomas over at in70MM.com with the serial numbers from the DP70's.

Bill

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Per Hauberg
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Mark -

Another 23 ? What have those ignorants bought instead ?
Noone completely sain sells his Rolls, just because a new model is presented...

8 screens with each one DP70 - Busy projectionist, if not commercials + trailers + extras + main is same picture format all the way... But still some upgrade ! [beer]

p.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Per,
Many of these 23 are from Europe, many from the States closed down theatres. Over here, and in Europe I assume, it is possible to get trailers and commercials in what ever format you need to match with the main feature. If they can't get the same format for what ever reason changing lenses on the DP is very, very easy...but you know that.....This batch of 8 machines will utilize the penthouse space to mount the DTS time code reader and we will upgrade the analog reproducers to todays specs.
BTW: They actually employ preojectionists at this theatre chain if there is over 6 creens at a site.
Mark @ CLACO

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Paul Vollmers
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"We just got in 23 DP70's"..............help !......someone give me oxygen.......! Holy smokes..!!!..........Wow..!
Okay.....so I'm a big Norelco fan.........23......Geeeeezzz.
There are a few of us running these babys.......ok.....big heavy babys.
Sure would be nice to see Around The World In 80 Days running on a Norelco again........maybe some day.
Lucky you Mark.

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Per Hauberg
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Yeah, Mark - as some very wise man said in one of these forums once: everything is easy on a DP70, except moving the bastard !
Have been luckily married to those two of mine for allmost 29 years - sure know it !
Commercials in Denmark - always 1:66 Most trailers 1:85 no matter the format of the film they announce. Scope trailers are as good as gone - and special scope trailer for flat film has only happened 2-3 times, i guess. But however easy - it means stop and change [Wink]

My last trip Around the World is so long ago, that it was 35mm mono on Bauer B5 - 2000 feet c/o and 28 amp L/I carbons.
Still remember the chok when changing for last reel and credits began at once - Not even Mr Spielberg has longer end credits !

Would it take a new post to ask whether anyone has heard if Oklahoma will make a 50 years aniversary run ?

Per

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