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Author Topic: who uses motor-generators? System Notices Forum Watchdog / Soup Nazi Posts: 215 Registered: Apr 2004 posted 07-06-2006 06:05 PM                 It has been 1147 days since the last post.  |  IP: Logged Stephen Furley Film God Posts: 3059 From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England Registered: May 2002 posted 07-06-2006 06:05 PM                     quote: Stephen, I almost answered your question in an earlier post as follows: Not sure if the Odeon ever use the Ross Scenograph, or remember how it differs from the Brenograph. Last time I saw it was over three years ago, and there was a large plate glass effects disc broken. Added: I can also tell you that, it was definitely there after the last refurbishment! I'd forgotten all about this thread, until it was linked to from the carbon arc one. Nigel Wolland has just retired as chief at the Odeon Leicester Square. A few Saturdays ago, the 9th of June I think it was, a visit was arranged for members of the Projected Picture Tuust. Donald played a few tunes for us on the Compton, and we then went up to the box. The equipment installed on that day was, from left to right facing the screen: Small subtitle projector, not sure of the make. Follow spot. Sony 4K digital projector, not in use. Three Cinemeccanica dual-guage projectors, the ones which can take the large, tower-type, 35mm spools, overlapping, on the base. They also have a conventional top spool arm for 6k spools. Basement readers for Dolby analogue and digital. DTS and SDDS also installed, but I think only on two machines. Christie? 2K digital projector, very much in use, the main feature was running on it that week, and they were showing all of the England matches, and the final, of the World Cup live. 1.3k digital projector, not in use, and partly dismantled. Follow spot. I think that was it, certainly no sign of the Ross Scenograph; whether it's been thrown out, or it's in store somewhere, I don't know. Nigel lowered the safety curtain for us, so we could see the original painting on it. The last time I was in the box at the Odeon it was still Vic Xs, with carbon arcs. That must have been when you were there Hugh, but I don't remember meeting you.  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 07-06-2006 07:14 PM                        quote: Stephen Furley Three Cinemeccanica dual-guage projectors... They must be Vic 8s, if they're dual 35/70.  |  IP: Logged Stephen Furley Film God Posts: 3059 From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England Registered: May 2002 posted 07-07-2006 03:21 AM                     Leo, they're like the one at Bradford. I thought they had a different model number for the ones with the base that takes the large spools, but I'm not sure. These were put in at the time of the last refurbishment a few years ago. Before that they had normal Vic. 8s with 6k spools, and a tower, before that vic.Xs, before that BTH Mk.1 SUPAs, and before that the original BTH machines. Always three machines. For a while they also had two Kalee Vistavision machines alongside the SUPAs. There are pictures of most of this equipment on Hugh's site. One of the Vic Xs is now at the Enigma Cinema at Bletchley Park. Leo, I'll send you a private message later today about a couple of things.  |  IP: Logged David Graham Rose Expert Film Handler Posts: 187 From: Cambridge, UK Registered: Sep 2002 posted 07-07-2006 11:03 AM                     Greetings All The digital projector that is actually working in the Odeon Leicester Square is a Barco DP100 and not a Christie. From Cambridge I bid you all a good night David  |  IP: Logged Robert DeLoss Marken Film Handler Posts: 11 From: stockbridge, ga, usa Registered: May 2004 posted 07-07-2006 11:08 AM                     I truly enjoyed reading all the posts and the photos on this thread. It brought back memories big time. In the 40’s and 50’s when I did this work full time most of the houses used the motor-generator. A few used the tungar bulb rectifier, but I would guess the ratio was about 5 to 1. Anyway, the summer of 1954 I was assigned the Beaver Theater in Des Moines, Iowa, a complete Motiograph booth. (The Beaver has been gone many years now). In an adjacent room was a motor driven converter. The lambs were AC, both carbons were the same size. That converter changed the 60 cycles to 96 cycles, a multiple of 24, to eliminate flicker. That was the only AC setup I ran across in those days. It worked good. Bob Marken  |  IP: Logged Mitchell Dvoskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1869 From: West Milford, NJ, USA Registered: Jan 2001 posted 07-07-2006 01:13 PM                     The Cedar Lane Cinema in Teaneck NJ was using a generator with Peerless Carbon Arc's up until it was multiplexed in 1981. Worked great, never had a problem with them.  |  IP: Logged Rick Raskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1100 From: Manassas Virginia Registered: Jan 2003 posted 07-07-2006 03:28 PM                     quote: Bernard Tonks Although no longer used, the stage lighting board had salt water dimmers that still worked What in the world is a salt water dimmer? Answered my own question Here.  |  IP: Logged Fred Georges Master Film Handler Posts: 257 From: Lombard, IL, USA Registered: Jun 2000 posted 07-07-2006 08:46 PM                     "The lambs were AC, both carbons were the same size. That converter changed the 60 cycles to 96 cycles, a multiple of 24, to eliminate flicker. That was the only AC setup I ran across in those days. It worked good". Bob Marken Bob, Can you remember if those were "Cyclex" AC lamphouses? They (supposedly) could burn for 2 hours on a single trim.  |  IP: Logged John McConnel Expert Film Handler Posts: 118 From: Okmulgee, OK USA Registered: Nov 2003 posted 07-07-2006 11:17 PM                        In Oklahoma City, the Frontier Theatre, previously known as the Log Cabin Theatre, had Cyclex lamphouses. They told me the lamps operated at 120 cycles per second, but it probably was actually 96. At any rate, they worked fine. The theatre was down the street from what is now the gay district. It played art, musical, foreign and erotic films of the day, and was an interesting place. It could have been the Castro of Oklahoma City if it had remained. The owner had the demeanor of an impresaro. His wife sold tickets and wore bright red lipstick that extended past her lips. She used a long extension to smoke her cigarettes. The projectionist sat in the lobby between changeovers with his legs spread, displaying his stuff. Some of the movies weren't of interest to me, so I'd sit in the lobby and visit with him. The theatre met its demise by fire about 1954, and a motel, and later a YWCA, was built on the location.  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 07-08-2006 11:10 PM                       Ashcraft Cyclex's ran at 96Hz.  |  IP: Logged Robert DeLoss Marken Film Handler Posts: 11 From: stockbridge, ga, usa Registered: May 2004 posted 07-09-2006 12:00 PM                     Fred – I’m sorry, if I remember correctly everything in the Beaver Theater booth was Motiograph. But as I remember the carbons had to be trimmed for each reel and would last for maybe 2.5 reels, like most of the lamps at that time. Bob Marken  |  IP: Logged Dave Macaulay Film God Posts: 2321 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: Apr 2001 posted 07-10-2006 09:05 PM                     quote: John McConnel The projectionist sat in the lobby between changeovers with his legs spread, displaying his stuff Hmmmm.  |  IP: Logged John McConnel Expert Film Handler Posts: 118 From: Okmulgee, OK USA Registered: Nov 2003 posted 07-10-2006 09:13 PM                        The print was impressive, anyhow. Many men would have been envious.  |  IP: Logged Tony L. Hernandez Expert Film Handler Posts: 158 From: Windsor, CO, USA Registered: Dec 2005 posted 07-10-2006 11:31 PM                     The Comanchee Drive In in Buena Vista still uses one thats been there since '66. Just saw it last week. I took pictures and will post them as soon as I get my film developed.  |  IP: Logged

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