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Kenneth Wuepper
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Saginaw, MI, USA
Registered: Feb 2002


 - posted 11-23-2006 07:56 PM      Profile for Kenneth Wuepper   Email Kenneth Wuepper   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Andrew,

Look at the wonderful photos Brad has posted of the TEMPLE THEARE in Saginaw MI. We have 2 V-10s and they run very well.

You might also look in the manuals section and see the drawings of the V-10 parts you are in doubt about. The drum shutter etc..

You are correct about the limited choices of lamphouses as the distance from the rear housing to the aperture is greater than most lamp houses allow. You can't get the lamp house close enough to focus the light properly over the entire frame unless the lamp house is designed for that. We still use CARBON light.

Hope this helps.
KEN

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Monte L Fullmer
Film God

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From: Nampa, Idaho, USA
Registered: Nov 2004


 - posted 11-24-2006 02:45 AM      Profile for Monte L Fullmer   Email Monte L Fullmer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Kenneth Wuepper
We still use CARBON light
..and rightfully so. Prob why the choice of those Ashcrafts behind those V-10's since the mirror focal length is long and narrow to get the light through the barrel shutter with ease (as with Ashcrafts loved being behind Motiographs AA(A)'s), plus using the beam spreaders when projecting 70mm.

Interesting that the fire shutters are closed when not in operation...

Great looking booth there...be fun to work in..

-Monte

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Kenneth Wuepper
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Saginaw, MI, USA
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Monte,

The theatre is used for many programs both live and film. When there is no film use, the projection room is "secured" from entry and to keep out the curious.

The old Ballentine 6/4/1 system is not used any longer but Paul has devised a way to use the control switches to operate the present system. Pressing a changeover switch will not only set the projector into active use but also makes necessary format changes in the 2 processors. There is a CP-200 and a DTS-6AD.

Thanks for your interest.
KEN [thumbsup]

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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From: Music City
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 - posted 11-25-2006 09:03 AM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Andrew McCrea
Was it a gear machine with an oil bath?
-How many blades/wings did the drum shutter have?
-Was the drum shutter (What exactly is a drum shutter) just a single shutter?
-Are the lamphouse choices limited?
-Was it "direct transmission driven" like the Vic 8, with a second motor for the lower take-up reel?

Yes, all gear driven

two, all drum shutters are essentially two blades but the sinbgle drum acts as a double shutter. Front and back cutting off towards the center of the aperature.

Lamphouses are a bit more limited.

Vic 8's are belt drive from the motor to the projector, Vic 10's are gear driven all the way. The inching knob IS the motor shaft.

quote: Fred Georges
I know who you're talking about
Fred, I'm shocked that he's still around!

Mark

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Andrew McCrea
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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 - posted 11-27-2006 09:23 AM      Profile for Andrew McCrea   Author's Homepage   Email Andrew McCrea   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I.C.E.C.O's 2006 catalogue lists:

u=used, r=re-conditioned

V4 u=$3k
V5 u=$4.5k, r=$5.5k
V8 u=$4.5k, r=$5.5k
V8 35/70 u=$7.5k, r=$9.5k
V9 u=$4k

It lists that they're each the projector head, optical soundhead and 2 or 3 lens manual turret.

It shows a picture of the Vic 5 as a "V5 complete unit".

Would this mean that you'd have to buy a pedestal from the list on the next page? I thought when you bought a Cinemeccanica, the projector was pretty much built into the pedestal?

If you want to have a look, you can download the catalogue by clicking here and looking at page 12 & 13 of the document (pages 7+8 in the table of contents).

Which of those would you recommend most, keeping in mind that I'm not actually buying one?

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Demetris Thoupis
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Aradippou, Larnaca, Cyprus
Registered: Apr 2001


 - posted 11-27-2006 10:46 AM      Profile for Demetris Thoupis   Email Demetris Thoupis   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Any Cinemeccanica would run forever and service and parts are widely available for all the models you mention.

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Pete Naples
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From: Dunfermline, Scotland
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 - posted 11-27-2006 12:33 PM      Profile for Pete Naples   Email Pete Naples   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
You're having a laugh, aren't you?

Have you ever tried obtaining parts for a Victoria 4 or Victoria 9?

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Demetris Thoupis
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From: Aradippou, Larnaca, Cyprus
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For the V4 I have, not the V9 but they were available. It is a thriving model in Cyprus!

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