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Matt Hale
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 123
From: Vancouver, Canada
Registered: Dec 2002


 - posted 06-04-2003 04:59 PM      Profile for Matt Hale   Author's Homepage   Email Matt Hale   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
So, other than wind speed, what does the EQ not do that the ECII does?

Ultimately the decision is whether we want to be able to mix directly to film (my preference) or just screen reels once they're done (bean counter's preference.) The former requires timecode, rs-422 machine control, and lock to house sync, while the latter only requires a head that goes backwards at 2 or 3x and spits out biphase. Unfortunately the bean counter gets a bigger say than I do. Worst case scenario we will end up with the Simplex setup again, since we still have 6 of the things sitting around, but I have pretty much convinced them of the benefit of at least a basic reversing system.

At this point my hope is to sell the Simplexes and put that money towards a single more useful machine.

Thanks

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Larry Shaw
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 238
From: Boston, MA, USA
Registered: Mar 2000


 - posted 06-04-2003 07:38 PM      Profile for Larry Shaw   Author's Homepage   Email Larry Shaw   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Matt,
The biggest differences are wind speed (300 vs. 100fps) and acceleration. The ECII also has a much nicer, more versatile LED dot matrix display with available full remotes, the ability to run cores directly or switch to 5/16th" reels, and a truly superior variable tension gate/trap system and computer controlled film tension system that allows astoundingly long R+R mix sessions without film damage.

They both can project 0-48 fps and have 3/2/1 blade shutters.

The short story is the ECII, which we term our "Dubbing Projector", is just that. If one is not using the projector for dubbing, or similar high speed activities like some film vs. video comparison work, the EQ "Quality Check Projector" will probably do nicely. That said, the ECII is clearly the "top of the line" machine that is used by every major studio. While the EQ is a great machine which does nearly everything the ECII does (and actually offers a few things the EC can't, like an optional turret), some buy the ECII so as not to be thought as having "2nd best".

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Pete Naples
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Dunfermline, Scotland
Registered: Feb 2001


 - posted 06-19-2003 03:06 AM      Profile for Pete Naples   Email Pete Naples   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Howard, FEDI dissapeared quite some time ago. I service one in the Lake district, and I think there's another couple down south somewhere, but that's about it. There were a pair running here in Scotland until about 4 years ago, but they've been replaced with Century now.

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Bernard Tonks
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Cranleigh, Surrey, England
Registered: Apr 2001


 - posted 06-19-2003 04:47 AM      Profile for Bernard Tonks   Email Bernard Tonks   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The old Philips FP20s were excellent for R & R , and the gate could be kept closed. There must be a surplus of these machines in the UK from all the closed down ABC cinemas.

There was a long playing Fedi projector installed at the Essoldo, Tunbridge Wells in Kent, which can now be seen running with a loop at The Projected Picture Trust, Bletchley Park. I sold the pair of Fedi's from the closed Jacey Cinema, Leicester Square, which were exported to Africa.

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