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John Hawkinson
Film God

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From: Cambridge, MA, USA
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 - posted 08-01-2003 06:18 AM      Profile for John Hawkinson   Email John Hawkinson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
As long as you're submitting, Joe, don't forget that the nominations deadline for the scientific and technical achievements Academy Awards is today, August 1st 2003. [thumbsup]

But on a more serious note, the award Kodak got is not because PTRs are good for the environment. It's because they promoted PTRs and marketted them to major users of 1,1,1-trichloroethane (presumably they mean labs here, not booths that use it to clean off masking tape splices). As far as I can tell, there has been no similar marketting of media cleaners, by Kelmar or anybody else. FilmGuard itself has some advertising, but not very much that I see.

So in the marketting department, FG could do a lot more. Maybe something like a strategic partnership with a projector vendor, etc. Or since Kodak canned Film Notes for Reel People, maybe it's a perfect openning to start a print publication, Film-Tech Notes for Reel People (actually, that might be infringing on Kodak's IP, but you get the idea).

--jhawk

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John Pytlak
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jhawk wrote:

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...the award Kodak got is not because PTRs are good for the environment...
[Confused] PTRs have allowed film labs and film-to-video transfer facilities to eliminate the use of millions of pounds of ozone depleting chemicals. How is that not "good for the environment"???

Although Kodak has discontinued the publication of "snail mail" versions of "Film Notes for Reel People" and "Cinema Notes", the Kodak website contains many of the articles, and a wealth of other film handling information. Brad has been able to post all the back issues in the "Manuals" section of Film-Tech. Kodak also actively participates in numerous Internet User Groups and in presenting tutorials and technical papers at industry conventions.

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John Hawkinson
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 - posted 08-01-2003 07:48 AM      Profile for John Hawkinson   Email John Hawkinson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
John, I was not clear enough, sorry about that.

When I said, "...not because PTRs are good for the environment," I meant that in of themselves, PTRs do not have much of a direct positive environmental impact. Their impact is indirect, in that they enable users to stop using environmentally-unfriendly technology.

It seems to me that the award did not go to Kodak for developing an inert plastic roller--the award went to Kodak for convincing people to stop using nasty chemicals (and to use the inert plastic roller instead).

--jhawk

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John Pytlak
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 - posted 08-01-2003 07:56 AM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
jhawk wrote:

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It seems to me that the award did not go to Kodak for developing an inert plastic roller--the award went to Kodak for convincing people to stop using nasty chemicals (and to use the inert plastic roller instead).

They go hand-in-hand. Developing great technology is fruitless unless people actually USE it. Kodak has always tried to follow George Eastman's philosophy of "You push the button, we do the rest" in developing and marketing technology that enables customers to use our products with ease.

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 08-01-2003 03:50 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Carmine,

You don't have to have the media cleaner to use FilmGuard. As is shown in the instructions that accompany the kits, you can take a couple of paper towels, fold them over twice on themselves, spray FG onto your "paper towel pad" (saturate the entire surface) and use it that way for lubricating, print shedding and static control.

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All you need to do is start the platter spinning (jam something in the brain or use a MUT) and wipe from edge to center so that there is a "wet" appearance to the edge.

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Then wind the film upside down on the next show and repeat for the other side.

Although this trick can't actually wipe the dirt off of the image area, if you are starting with new prints, this will greatly extend the "like new" appearance of the projected image as well as the other benefits above (cuts static, cuts shedding, lubricates print).

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Carmine Occhino
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From: New york city
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 - posted 08-03-2003 12:01 AM      Profile for Carmine Occhino   Email Carmine Occhino   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks for the info Brad...as soon as management wises up and gets me the bottle I look foward to using it

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