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Topic: Optical sound format for Clockwork Orange re-issue?
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Martin Brooks
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posted 08-30-2003 08:12 PM
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he best I can tell....
First Dolby Stereo (3-channel; L-C-R): Lisztomania
First Dolby Stereo (4-channel; L-C-R-S): A Star Is Born
First 4-track mag with Dolby NR: Nashville
First 70mm with Dolby NR: Logan's Run
First 70mm-Dolby with Baby Boom: Star Wars
According to my notes (but sources long forgotten), A Star is Born, not Logan's Run was probably the first 70mm film with Dolby NR, since A Star is Born was released first (right?) and was released in 4tk Mag, 6tk Mag, 4tk Mag Dolby, 6tk Mag Dolby, SVA and Academy.
Logan's Run was significant because it was supposedly the first film to use equalized monitors during mixing and dubbing.
By the end of 1977, the year of Star Wars, Dolby reported that 30 films had been released in Dolby formats (12 for that year.) However, many 70mm Dolby Mag films after that point did not use the baby boom format and used discrete tracks instead. 70mm Discrete Dolby releases included Heaven's Gate, Annie, Tron and Let's Spend the Night Together.
Superman was the first film to experiment with Dolby 70mm Splilt Surround, although Apocalypse Now was the first released. Superman was the 50th Dolby release.
In 1979, Hair and Hurricane were the first 35mm Dolby films to use a new surround matrix.
In 1987, Innerspace and Robocop were the first Dolby SR releases. In 1990, Robocop II was the 100th Dolby SR release.
In June 1992, Batman Returns was the first Dolby Digital release.
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Michael Coate
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posted 08-31-2003 02:24 PM
Gordon McLeod wrote:
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Here is a link to the cinephoto uk site with a picture of the the first cp100 that was insalled for Tommy
http://www.cinephoto.co.uk/leicester_square_theatre_8.htm]
Why was a Dolby cinema processor used for a Quintaphonic presentation of Tommy? Wasn't DBX used on the Quintaphonic version, rather than Dolby? The liner notes in the Tommy DVD describe Quintaphonic as having "used DBX while other sets used Dolby A or no noise reduction at all."
Also, the link that leads to a photo of the Odeon Leicester Square's Dolby CP100 includes text that mentions Quintaphonic as being a 4-track format. Quintaphonic was also described earlier in this thread as a 4-track format, yet in neither case was an explanation given as to the function of the fourth track. My understanding of Quintaphonic is that the five channels were matrix-encoded onto three tracks. So what was the fourth track for?
Also, no one has offered an explanation for my question about how it was possible that a 70mm version of Tommy could've had split surrounds prior to the introduction of split surround or what type of processor would be required or how the channel layout was handled on the print. Gordon??? Anyone???
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Martin Brooks wrote:
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By the end of 1977, the year of Star Wars, Dolby reported that 30 films had been released in Dolby formats (12 for that year.)
Another interesting Dolby-related stat is that prior to the booking of Star Wars (spring 1977) there were only about two dozen theatres in the world equipped for Dolby Stereo playback. (There were another two dozen mono systems installed throughout Canada which have not been included in these figures.) Following/during the booking of Star Wars, the total rose to just over 50. By the end of the run of Star Wars in September 1978, the worldwide Dolby installation number exceeded 700.
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Jeffry Johnson contributed:
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Film Sound History: 70's
Motion Picture Sound 1930-1989
Interesting...but only as an overview. Both articles are riddled with errors and fall short of being definitive accounts of the subject.
"The only other releases in [mag stereo with Dolby noise reduction] included The Song Remains The Same and Nashville." Hardly.
"Star Wars released in 46 U.S. theatres equipped for Dolby Stereo." The number was lower than 46 (though in fairness to the article's author(s) that figure was likely sourced from Dolby's company chronology. I have a theory on why 46 was quoted, but I won't bore you guys with it. ![[Smile]](smile.gif) )
Release dates incorrect on Apocalypse Now, Return Of The Jedi, Jurassic Park and Last Action Hero.
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