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Author Topic: Return Of The King. Running Time? Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 12-04-2003 08:47 PM                     My understanding is a DTS-CD rom will hold 100 minutes of audio. So 3:21 would be 1 minute over budget for 2 discs wouldn't it? I looked through the "how to fit a 3 disc DTS movie onto 2 discs" feature. The trick is an excellent idea. But will that work on a pair of 9 year old DTS-6 players with 2X speed Toshiba caddy drives?  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 12-04-2003 09:31 PM                     Yes, it works with ALL model players and ALL model drives.  |  IP: Logged Michael Brown Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1522 From: Bradford, England Registered: May 2001 posted 12-05-2003 06:02 PM                     So considering the movie is out in 12 days it should appear on the BBFC website soon. Then we can tell how long the film is in feet and frames.  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 12-05-2003 06:10 PM                        Why wait when you can guess. 289440 frames +/- whatever I'm off by.  |  IP: Logged Dan Harris Film Handler Posts: 86 From: Bristol, UK Registered: Jun 2003 posted 12-05-2003 06:23 PM                     Incidentally, we had confirmation today that the film is 12A rated in the UK. Can't see it on the BBFC's website yet though. So far it seems that Warner/Vue are the only major chain running with intermissions.  |  IP: Logged Michael Brown Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1522 From: Bradford, England Registered: May 2001 posted 12-09-2003 05:51 AM                     From BBFC: Run Time 200min 54sec 18081 +10 (Feet +Frames) 12A Contains intense battle violence and horror scenes  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 12-09-2003 11:33 AM                        Hmm, only off by 134 frames, not bad for not having touched a print.  |  IP: Logged Dick Vaughan Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1032 From: Bradford, West Yorkshire, UK Registered: Jul 2000 posted 12-09-2003 03:48 PM                        Daryl Congratulations Perhaps the difference is because we have the Final Cut United Kingdom Unified Print version  |  IP: Logged Dave Hall Film Handler Posts: 16 From: Watford, UK Registered: Jan 2003 posted 12-10-2003 01:44 PM                     VUE are placing the intermission at the end of reel 4, i'm told giving a running time of 1hr 50 ads+r1-4, 15 min break, 1hr 50 r5-10, total 3hr 55 mins. They are also talking about playing 2 screens with some prints (2hrs apart) *in addition to interlocks* on peak shows. Will be fun to manage both upstairs and downstairs!  |  IP: Logged Dan Harris Film Handler Posts: 86 From: Bristol, UK Registered: Jun 2003 posted 12-10-2003 06:05 PM                     Just had a memo through today: New Line have given Odeon the go ahead to have an interval and it is entirely up to individual sites whether they want to or not. The memo goes on to state that show times should not be altered if already programmed (i.e. only put in an interval if sufficient clean up time has been left between shows), the interval must be in a specified location which you find out from booking (I don't know where as we're running without an interval), and that all customers should be informed when purchasing tickets.  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 12-11-2003 08:26 PM                     3 hours and 21 minutes plus previews. Hmmmm....I wonder how well that is going to run on "wild platters" such as the old CFS, A-3, and other micro-switch platters. I never ran the LOTR yet and didn't build it up, so I don't know how much room is left on the 52 (54?)-inch platter decks if intermissions are not allowed. There are theaters still equipped with the 48-inch version of the CFS platters, and I am sure they will be forced into running an intermission whether New Line likes it or not. I took my 48-inchers out of service years ago. I assembled Shindler's List on a Strong A-3 it when it came out in the mainstream market. The film pile was up to about 1 inch from the platter edge. I had to use the small preview cores wrapped inside out with masking tape (about 30 of them) to keep the A-3 from tossing the print near the end of the movie. However, I do not remember what the running time was on Shindler's List - but I am sure it is close to being equal to the LOTR. I think there are going to be plenty of tossed LOTR prints if the platters are not up to snuff. Anyone care to comment on this?  |  IP: Logged John Westlund Expert Film Handler Posts: 204 From: Burney, CA, USA Registered: Jun 2001 posted 12-11-2003 08:38 PM                     Well if a Christie AW-3R can hold over 4 hours on one deck I would think that there would be around 3 inches or so from the end of the print to the edge of the deck. Maybe the stock used for Shindlers list was thicker since it was black and white? Im sure John P. could tell us more about that.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 12-11-2003 08:46 PM                     The picture of the safety ring on a Strong platter was indeed a print of "Return of the King", but without any previews.  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 12-11-2003 08:50 PM                     Thank you, gentlemen. John, I think it was an tri-acetate print. I can't be absolutely sure on that, though.  |  IP: Logged Michael Brown Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1522 From: Bradford, England Registered: May 2001 posted 12-11-2003 08:59 PM                     ---------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Just had a memo through today: New Line have given Odeon the go ahead to have an interval and it is entirely up to individual sites whether they want to or not. The memo goes on to state that show times should not be altered if already programmed (i.e. only put in an interval if sufficient clean up time has been left between shows), the interval must be in a specified location which you find out from booking (I don't know where as we're running without an interval), and that all customers should be informed when purchasing tickets. ---------------------------------------------------------------- At Odeon Leeds-Bradford we are going with both. We are having a mix of showings with and without intermissions. (It's showing with intermissions in some auditoriums and without in the others). The customer gets a choice of attending a showing with or witout an intermission whichever is their preference. Should be interesting to see how it goes.  |  IP: Logged

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