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Michael Schaffer
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 - posted 10-23-2003 08:27 PM      Profile for Michael Schaffer   Author's Homepage   Email Michael Schaffer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
That is really childish, Mark. The Compaq is simply the platform on which the analyzer program runs and on which it is displayed. It has nothing to do with the audio components as such - these are in the jacket.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Michael,
Its not childish in the least, nor am I criticizing IVIE's software execution that runs on the Compaq. I'm sure it'll run fine as long as the Compaq runs. I can speak from multiple poor experiences with them. I have owned three other Compaqs...my first computer was a Compaq 486/66 and was the most un-upgradable comuter I've owned so far.....Mr Kraus and I had lots-O-Fun keeping this POJ running! A Compaq Laptop which would not work with any external devices I use that need to run off my serial port..... and a Compaq pocket computer which is so power hungry that a recharge only lasts a half hour....normal according to Compaq. So yes, I speak with experience and continue to steer totally clear of them. There are at least several other brands of hand held computers that would have made a much better platform to build on. In fact Palm comes immediately to mind.... To start with there are far more convenience type accessories available for them, as well as other software that probably would run on it had IVIE built around one. Tne Palm that I use daily has given me three years of faultless service so far. Amazing, considering that its fallen out of my belt holder at least a couple of dozen times.
I will admit there is a very, very remote possibility that the Compaq handheld which IVIE decided on may be the best in the world, but its very remote indeed.
Mark

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Michael Schaffer
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It does not have to be the best in the world. All it has to do is run with enough calc power for this application.
As a Pocket PC, it seems OK to me too, but I don`t have a lot of experience with these. I will use the calender, email, address book etc functions though now that I have it.
Maybe they will make adapters for other handheld PCs as well if this proves to be a success? Do other types also have this jacket concept to upgrade them?

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Gordon McLeod
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The only pocket PC is the HP 200LX runs reel DOS and talks to an R2 flawlessly
And for everything else it has Sidekick which was and is an excellent day planner

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Michael,
I'm sorry if I came across as if I were belittling you for buying the IVIE. That is not the case here though. You certainly would have no knowledge of my experiences with Compaq...Mr Kraus is about the only one here that would know. I'm sure that IVIE's software is great though as is all the software they've written. I doubt they will make it available on another platform though unless the Compaq becomes history to quickly. In the past IVIE has tended to buy enough of something to go for 20 or so years. Even the PC-40 is still available...but probably not for much longer. That computer has got to be 20 years old!
Mark @ CLACO

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Michael Schaffer
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I didn`t feel belittled at all. Personally, I would never buy a Compaq PC either. I like to build up my own system rather than buying Compaq, Dell etc.
I just think it is completely irrelevant what pocket PC the analyzer uses. What counts is if as an analyzer it is as exact as a traditional unit. I will be able to test it against an Ivie IE-33A owned by a friend in a couple of days.

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Matt Zeiner
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I know what you are saying, Mark. What is interesting, though, is that there is some connection between HP and the ipaq...I think that HP has bought/is buying the ipaq line, or that HP made them to begin with. There are a number of similar "Ipaq" devices that have the HP label on them. They all use the same chipsets and unlike the palm, are capable of running linux. If a dos shell hasn't been written yet for these 400mhz units, it will be. the software availability for these units far surpasses the catalog available for the Palm OS, and given the fact that Acrobat, Word, Excel,Acess, Powerpoint, Outlook ,LAN, WLAN, are directly supported in Pocket PC, I can't see the palm in any other light but as a toy, tho my VIIx has given me four years of solid service and still works fine. The new battery in the ipaq is a Lithium-ion-type with a current capacity of 1400MAH. Given the front - lit screen and more efficient chipset and X-scale processor, should last a long time between charges...I dunno - it REALLY LOOKS SOLID...I'll run the crap out of it when I get it. Theoretically, it should be more than fast enough to run DRAS...gotta find out who is working on that DOS shell...

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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Considering that HP and Compaq merged a ways back now, I'd say that there is a bit of a connection.

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Matt Zeiner
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There it is.

Note: The SDK has been out for PocketPC2003 for quite a while so there is also quite a bit of exceptional shareware and freeware available for it. Oh yeah - the unit is also capable of using 1GB memory modules, CD ROMS and Hard drives for storage. So much for that Ipod I wanted to buy. Here it is integrated into my RTA!! Try that with your Clie.

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Michael Schaffer
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Which is a good website to look for shareware/freeware for the ipaq?

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Matt Zeiner
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Check these out........

http://www.mypilotstore.com/mypilotstore/Handheld/default.asp

http://www.ppc4all.com

http://store.yahoo.com/pocketpcfilms/ourhotnewfil.html
.....they even got PORN for your pocket PC!


http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readerforppc.html


http://www.pdabuyersguide.com/compaq3900.htm

http://www.freewareppc.com/

Some real cool stuff. I found a "rebirth"-type clone somewhere, too...if you are into samplers and such.

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Matt Zeiner
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OK. Got my IE-33 in the mail today. I must say I am really dissapointed with it. I like the Ipaq itself alot, but I must say that the Ivie software leaves much to be desired. Michael - have you been able to get yours to run a 1/3rd octave display with any less than 170ms latency? Mine appears incapable of measuring transients or impluses because of the latency coupled with the polling frequency of the software. Seems to me a 400MHZ processor should be able to run in REAL TIME with 2 channels of 44.1/20bits. A professional device should have no more than 10 ms of latency, and the readout should reflect the refresh rate of the screen. These issues makes the thing useful only for B-chains with a single mic. Depending on what frequency you set your mux at, it is possible that the RTA will miss too many samples to make the analysis precise. Forget A-chains or head alignments. I sincerely hope that I am doing something wrong with mine. I'm gonna try overclocking my Ipaq - Any one out there that has used one have any thoughts?

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Michael Schaffer
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I am not allowed to disclose any details since I promised Brad to write a review, but I can tell you that I and a friend tested it against the classic IE-30A with a USL multiplexer last night and we found it left nothing at all to be desired.
It takes a little practice to use it properly though.
You have to take your time to explore all the options.
Given that it has all the extra functions, it is still my first choice.
Once you have sent me the Goldline, we will also run a test against it. Please remember that a lot of packages will be on the road around Christmas, so you need to send it a little earlier.

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Matt Zeiner
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yeah, but, did you try an A-chain with it? Maybe it works OK on averaged measurements. B-chain. Fine. Fact is, the 'scope display only exhibits 30 ms of latency. The polarity tester exhibits 2 ms of latency. The RTA? 160-170ms of latency. I dunno. thats a lot of delay. The real issue here is that the software is either buggy, or the Ipaq is underpowered. One sample every 165 ms or so (the polling frequency of the A/D seems to coincide with the latency figure) is not enough data. Still hoping mine is malfunctioning...

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Michael Schaffer
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If you don`t want it, put it in the box with the Goldline. A friend of mine here will gladly take it.

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