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Author Topic: 16mm Victor Animatophone Model 60 Projector Sam Hunter Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 779 From: West Monroe, LA, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 11-18-2003 11:36 AM                     I stand corrected P.S. A Porta Arc is a welding machine  |  IP: Logged Bruce McGee Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1776 From: Asheville, NC USA... Nowhere in Particular. Registered: Aug 1999 posted 11-18-2003 08:02 PM                     The school system here had tons of Bell & Howell units. A few 385's, and zillions of 500's. When I was a senior in high school (yes, I made it that far!) the school system got its first 1500 that I got to use. I thought it was noisy and sounded cheap. There were no Kodaks or RCA's at any of the schools that I attended. Recently I got a Pageant AV-255S from 1959. What a monster this is to work on. Even the amp is a pain to get apart. But I have to say that this projector humms along when it is running, and since the rebuild, has given no problems. Anybody got a Natco? It's a left-hand threader. I have one with a bad amp. 3030 might be the model #. Like to get it working properly. It would work well in my bedroom. Nothing else ever happens in there, so it might as well be a little theatre...  |  IP: Logged Jon Miller Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 973 From: San Diego, CA, USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 11-18-2003 09:48 PM                     Natco? They pop up occasionally on eBay. The problem I see with left-hand mechanisms in general (from a Natco to xenon pedestal Hortson machines) is that a print wound on a "projection" reel (with one round and one square spindle hole) has to be flipped and twisted to thread properly. It looks goofy; worse yet, the projector may not provide the proper back-tension to allow the film to pay out properly. Sam--Glad you enjoy the carbon-arc Victor . Unfortunately, she is not 100% functional; the mechanism and amplifier work fine, but the reflector and condensor lens are missing and I am missing all the rectifier and lamphouse cables. The cables are no big deal...it's the optical parts that is the show-stopper. It's interesting that the lamphouses on the Victor 1600 Arc and the RCA Porto-Arc were nearly identical, but the condensor lens was mounted differently (the lamphouse snout on the Victor, the projector mechanism on the RCA). Also interesting is that Kalart offered the Victor 1600 mechanism and base without the lamphouse well into the 1970s; I spotted one with an ORC 1000 integrated lamphouse on eBay about two years ago.  |  IP: Logged Bill Carter Expert Film Handler Posts: 162 From: Minneapolis, Minnesota Registered: Sep 1999 posted 11-18-2003 10:36 PM                     Jon, That is the very machine! Lots of fun to run. I lucked out, and found a pretty good supply of Pearlex carbons for it, too. I did swap the tungars for sil-tubes in the rectifier. Bill  |  IP: Logged Richard Fowler Film God Posts: 2392 From: Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA Registered: Jun 2001 posted 11-20-2003 02:16 AM                     A NATCO fanatic with 3030 + Sear Tower version + 3015 units on my shelf  |  IP: Logged Webster Colcord Film Handler Posts: 23 From: Alameda, California Registered: Oct 2003 posted 11-20-2003 06:32 PM                        I'm looking at purchasing a used Kalart Victor 80-35, which uses a MARC 300 lamp. The seller is going to send me a pic, but meanwhile I can't seem to find a picture of one anywhere on the web. Anyone had experience with this model?  |  IP: Logged Jon Miller Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 973 From: San Diego, CA, USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 11-20-2003 08:24 PM                     Webster, It should be similar to the 70-15 MC3, except for the amplifier (the 70-series was tube; the 80, solid state). AFAIK, the projector you are interested in is probably an 80-25 MC3...ICECO offered US Government surplus 80-25 MC3s for sale a number of years ago. Here's an example of a 70-15 MC3... Be aware that the Marc 300/16 lamp used in these machines are virtually out of production and are getting scarce, and, compared with xenon, the lamps cost much more per hour of operation. If you are looking for a portable high-intensity projector, any one of the Eiki models using a 350-watt xenon lamp is a better bet...Superior Quartz Products recently introduced a "clone" of that lamp, insuring economical spares for some time to come.  |  IP: Logged William Hooper Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1879 From: Mobile, AL USA Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-21-2003 06:16 AM                        quote: Be aware that the Marc 300/16 lamp used in these machines are virtually out of production and are getting scarce Does anyone know of a source for the Marc 300/16 lamps? BulbDirect's search pulls up nothing.  |  IP: Logged Jeff Taylor Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 601 From: Chatham, NJ/East Hampton, NY Registered: Apr 2000 posted 11-21-2003 09:15 AM                     Sources for MARC's is a topic that comes up frequently at www.16mmfilms.com. Do a quick search and you will come up with several contributors' experience. I echo Jon's comments, however, about the superiority of the small Eiki xenons. You're talking more light, +/- 2000 hours for $250 vs 50 hours for $50-$75 IF you can find the lamps, and yes, the actual MARC 300's are supposedly out of production. I gather the Gemini's are still in production.  |  IP: Logged Ken Layton Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1452 From: Olympia, Wash. USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 11-21-2003 12:28 PM                     Marc lamps are only built at certain times during the year then the production line moves onto a different lamp. When searching for the lamps you sometimes need to use the ANSI 3 letter codes: Marc-300/16: EZM Marc-300/16A (a.k.a. Gemini 300): EZG Marc-300/35K: EZS Marc-350/16T: EZT  |  IP: Logged William Hooper Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1879 From: Mobile, AL USA Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-25-2003 12:01 AM                        Ken, thanks for the ANSI numbers & the model variants.  |  IP: Logged

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