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Manny Knowles
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Richard wrote:
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The DTS system is the least expensive due to the low cost of the reader compared to Dolby / SDDS readers.
There's a $4,000 difference in cost of the readers??? [Eek!]

Maybe I'm working with *yesterday's* prices...Are you talking about a 6AD or an XD10? I was referring to the original 6 and 6D.

(Also, IIRC there was a deeeeep discount for the DTS-6 for theatres gearing up to run JURASSIC PARK. Is this true?)

What are these things selling for nowadays? Years ago -- late 1990s -- a DTS system was about $6k whereas an SRD was about $10k with a reader.

The list on an SRD is still about the same. But what about the DTS...am I misremembering and/or did prices change drastically since the last time I bought this stuff?

As for SDDS, I don't remember what they were going for but somehow I remember an SDDS setup costing even more than Dolby.

Jesse wrote:
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Hey, don't bad-mouth DTS, they'll call your bosses and get you in trouble!
Has this actually ever happened!? Pure scandal!

I really don't think they want to mess around with that. It wouldn't get me in any trouble. In fact, they'd probably just hear more complaining.

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Richard Fowler
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I am using a 6D player with a one reader that comes as a kit for $6350.00 list vs a DA-20 with a BACP or basement set up which more money right out of the box. Pricing for DTS has not changed the last two years while Dolby had some increases due to the changes in the dollar and euro since they source out from two locations, U.K and San Francisco....where is the $4000.00 number from?..am I confused or jet lagged from my recent trip [Confused] Jurrassic Park 1 was jump started by a sale which put digital sound on the map....I remember doing 15 systems in 40 days during this period and had most of my clients prepped for the change with pre-wire and proper amps and speakers to do the job due to tech information that was being noted to AES and SMPTE members prior to the introduction of the hardware from DTS and Dolby. Dolby prior to Jurrassic Park was promoting Dolby Digital as a premium sound kit for special cinemas and marketing was not geared for wide spread use since SR analog was deem more important to push....the rest is history.

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Scott Jentsch
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 - posted 11-25-2003 10:28 AM      Profile for Scott Jentsch   Author's Homepage   Email Scott Jentsch   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Would it be against DTS rules to trade ISO disc images between theaters that didn't get their discs and theaters that have them?

If so, perhaps some sort of "needs" forum could be added here, where people with needs meet up with fellow members that would be willing to send them an ISO of the discs they need.

Of course, this would likely require a broadband connection to make it practical, plus a way for the files to be transferred...

DTS should make these images available on a private FTP server so that theaters/distributors could get the discs they need in a pinch, don't you think?

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Brad Miller
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This has been discussed before and the answer is always no. Do a search and you will see the topic turn up.

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Richard Fowler
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The DTS track like Dolby and SDDS is paid by the studios under a license scheme. The DTS encoding license is based on a master to make duplicate disks or 500 disks and up which belong to the studio since they paid for the license. Usually due to last minute producer and studio changes DTS may not have a final to make the master but they only need a couple of days for master and disks to deliver when the client has their act together. We are dealing with copywrited property; maybe in a few years with broadband + DTS XD-10 with hard drive in the field and studio supported networks to send audio via studio supplied passkey protection to the site.

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Manny Knowles
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Richard asked:
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where is the $4000.00
If the DTS system is around $6000 and the Dolby system is around $10000...that's the $4k difference to which I was referring.

You had stated that the difference in price was due to the cost of the reader and I'm saying there's about a $4000 difference so it seems odd to attribute all of that to the reader.

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Richard Fowler
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Manny...it sinks in now, especially after getting a decent night's rest [Wink] The price spread between DTS and Dolby averages $3 - 4000 depending on the reader set-up on the Dolby and if upgrade or full swap out is factored.

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