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John T. Hendrickson, Jr
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Freehold, NJ, USA
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Robert E. Allen wrote:

"While the holiday season is one of the biggest money-makers of the year you're not going to make a profit on ticket sales Christmas eve or Christmas day anyway"

Okay, I'll give you Christmas Eve, but SURPRISE- Christmas Day is one of our busiest days of the year in our area. For non-Christians, we are the only game in town as everything else is closed. And... for those who have Christmas dinner early and are looking for something to do in the evening, again, we are the only game in town.

Nothing personal- just business. And yes, I'll agree that it's nice to receive those prints two days before Christmas.

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Dennis M Dow Jr
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From: Bloomfield NJ USA
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We usually receive our Christmas prints 2 days before Christmas.. We also run a curtailed Schedule on Christmas eve with last show starting around 8pm... Has been this way for the 5 years we have been open..
The old chain I used to work for also closed early on Christmas eve.

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David Graham Rose
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Greetings from the historic City of Cambridge

A number of years ago, too many years ago now I come to think of it, when I was a Chief Projectionist with the Gaumont circuit here in the UK, I was asked by our Managing Director at the time to work on Christmas day. The reason being was that he wanted to entertain his friends and family in an alternative manner over the Festive period. At the time, and being single, I was not too bothered about this.

I duly arrived on Christmas Day at 11am, in readiness for a 6pm start, and found that the secondary lamp gas supply had failed. I duly spent the next four hours attempting to re-establish a supply in order that our Managing Director and his family could view the entertainment. Imagine my dismay when I realised that the main incoming gas supply had failed.

Fortunately, my Senior Projectionist was a former gas fitter with British Coal, as it was in those days, and he was able to gain access to the local supply. With luck, he was able to divert enough gas to the stalls lighting circuit from the adjacent fish and chip shop to allow the performance to continue.

In those days we were fortunate enoughg to have a full Variety act in anticipation of the supporting programme. We began with the usual Organ interlude - Reginald Dixon, bless him- was kind enough to give up his day off, and 13 of the 14 Tiller Girls were gracious enough to make the effort to attend and perform their routine. The only absent girl was one Elizabeth Boothroyd- the former Madam Speaker of the House of Commons!

At the end of the performance the MD personally requested a visit to the Projection Suite with his family to thank me for the evenings performance. His only criticism of the show was that newsreel was out of date!! It seems that Gaumont-British news even had Christmas Eve off.

How times change.

With fond memories of the Tiller Girls, I bid you all a very, very good evening. And to all my colleagues across the pond a very happy Thanksgiving.

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Jason Black
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Dustin,

Dont' eb surprised if you're wrong about Christams Day this year... Insiders say differently... [Frown] Back to the days of full operation..

There is rumor that we'll drop 9pm shows Christmas eve tho... BUT, with our LOTR schedule, it's still midnight before we get out... [Shrug]

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William Hooper
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quote:
We began with the usual Organ interlude - Reginald Dixon
[Eek!] Wow!

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Joe Schmidt
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So nice to find someone besides myself who remembers Reginald Dixon. I have many of his recordings in my theatre pipe organ collection.

CHEERS... from one Obsolete Person to another!

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David Graham Rose
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Greetings to All from Cambridge, UK

I quote;

'So nice to find someone besides myself who remembers Reginald Dixon. I have many of his recordings in my theatre pipe organ collection. CHEERS... from one Obsolete Person to another'

Indeed, Reg was one of the greatest (if not THE greatest) organist ever to grace the manuals of theatre organs. I have many recordings of him, including one of 'Lullaby of Broadway' which he personally recorded for my late father at the console of the Wurlitzer at the Gaumont State Kilburn.

My Father, as well as being a Chief Projectionist was a very accomplished theatre organist, and had the pleasure of playing one of the three Kimball consoles at the Roxy along with Dezso Von D'Antalffy and Dr. Parmitter, standing in for Lew White who was off sick at the time. His favourite stop on the organ was the Vox Humana, with which he recorded 'Jiggery-Jig-Jog Down O'er Bridge of Weir' in 1928.

Indeed, due to cuts in academic research in the UK it may very well be that soon I too may be obsolete, since the next academic years budget for research in Cinema Technology has been halved. I believe that the University Funding Council has no time for matters appertaining to the Cinema Industry.

From a very annoyed head of research, I bid you good evening.

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Manny Knowles
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Has anybody ever tried calling the depot and requesting an early delivery and, if so, did they accommodate your request?

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Stephen Furley
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There seem to have been quite a few cinema organists called 'Reginald' for some reason; perhaps it was just a common name at the time.

I've just picked up the December programme booklet for the David Lean Cinema in Croydon, single screen art house, closed completely from Dec 24th to Jan 2nd inclusive. I don't know if it was the same last year.

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Steve Kraus
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I'm still puzzling over "secondary lamp gas supply."

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Frank Angel
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Excuse this probably obvious question from someone who books his titles to play when HE wants them: are theatres forced by contract to play a title on a particular opening day? Suppose I decided that the audience numbers for Christmas day would be very light and coupled with the desire to give the staff a break on Christmas eve, decide to forgo opening on Christmas day and pushed the openings to the 27th. Do theatres today have the option of deciding when they want to open a picture? Or has that option been preempted by the studios?

Frank

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Steve Kraus
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I will give you a speculative answer; someone else will give a more authoritative reply:

Anything can be negotiated for between the distributor and the booker which means that anything is possible especially if they really want your theatre and depending what their other options are. But in general probably no...they want their film to open on a given day and since opening grosses seem to be more important than ever now even if your contribution to them will be small they still want them. Of course part of the calculus would be how the calendar falls because if the few tickets you would have sold are merely deflected into another day that will count as part of the opening then you would stand a better chance. But they still probably would not agree to it.

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Stephen Furley
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Steve, gas for secondary lighting was quite common well into my lifetime. My primary school had it, my secondary school had it, though disused by then, and I was in a church hall just a few years ago that had gas lit exit signs.

Many early cinemas had no mains electricity, all lighting was by gas, projectors were hand cranked, and arcs were run off dynamos driven by gas engines.

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David Graham Rose
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Good Evening all from Cambridge;

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'I'm still puzzling over "secondary lamp gas supply."'

Puzzle no longer my dear chap. Quite simply, along with many cinemas of this era, the secondary - or maintained/emergency- lighting was not run from batteries, but all secondary lighting in the theatre were illuminated with gas lit mantles. Thus avoiding the need for electricity - particularly handy in the event of a power failure.

It is with some regret, I would imagine, that the British Broadcasting Corporation, based in London, England, had not invested in gas powered back up broadcasting equipment. This would have avoided disappointing the many millions of listeners to the early morning Radio 4 'Today' programme last week.

Maybe I will recommend it, the next time the Broadcasting Technology Committee meets.

With that thought, I shall retire.

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Don Bruechert
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Where do you hear about "Mandatory Showtimes"? The owner doesn't share any of that stuff with me, and if he sets up the show schedule to some stupid times that conflict with a bunch of stuff I just change the runtimes by 10 or 15 minutes to make everything work out. Sometimes he has 3 prints starting at the exact same time, which is impossible, so I just add 5 minutes here or subtract 5 minutes there to help keep things sane. I have found it is much better if you find you need to change showtimes a tad to send the changes to the paper and let everyone know, than to just keep them as they are so the boss is happy, because if there happen to be 3 prints starting at the same time then we start one 5 minutes early, 1 on time and one 5 minutes late. The people who come to the movie we started early get pissed off, or don't buy concessions - much easier to publish the change and keep everyone but the boss happy... after all, we are supposed to be in this business for the customers....

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