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John A. Parker Jr.
Film Handler

Posts: 21
From: Brevard, N.C., USA
Registered: May 2003


 - posted 12-11-2003 10:36 PM      Profile for John A. Parker Jr.   Email John A. Parker Jr.   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Are we having fun with the cap code? Well, an easy way to
tell which reel has it without running any of the show is
to look at the leader. If there is a bar code before picture start, that's the reel it's on.

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Carl Martin
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Oakland, CA, USA
Registered: Feb 2002


 - posted 12-12-2003 02:01 AM      Profile for Carl Martin   Author's Homepage   Email Carl Martin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
the print of last samurai i saw had it on reel 2, but i only noticed it twice.

can anyone confirm the above barcode observation?

carl

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Scott Norwood
Film God

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From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 12-12-2003 09:06 AM      Profile for Scott Norwood   Author's Homepage   Email Scott Norwood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
For whatever it's worth, I watched an original (2001) print of FOTR recently and it definitely didn't have the new Deluxe "crap code." If it had standard Kodak "CAP code," I certainly didn't notice it. This print was also made at Deluxe Hollywod.

Weird.

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Christopher Duvall
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Denver, CO
Registered: Dec 1999


 - posted 12-12-2003 02:41 PM      Profile for Christopher Duvall   Email Christopher Duvall   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I screened our print of Two Towers last night and in reel 8 I saw that crap at least 18 times. I was ready to kill. [Mad] I would like to to try to replace the reel but I think we would get a replacement with the same old [bs] I feel that no one would listen regardless how much all of us complained. I think the industry views the exhibitors as "red-headed step children". Has anybody any luck trying to replace reels with this garbage? Has anybody mentioned this to their home offices or bookers? I just need to know if this can be seriously approached with the right people.

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Per Hauberg
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Malling, Denmark
Registered: Jul 2000


 - posted 12-12-2003 07:32 PM      Profile for Per Hauberg   Author's Homepage   Email Per Hauberg   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Don't you understand, piracy has become a sport
Yep - and anti-piracy has become an obsession.
About 200 danish cinema-owners at pre-screening last week were all checked with metal-detectors and curious hands - costing half an hour delay on the screening. AND a gorilla was posted beside the projectionist to keep his camera in the pocket. -IF someone in that forum would want to make a pirate-print, don't You think, someone else in exactly that forum would take him down ??

Besides: a bad, bad internet copy was available long before, suggesting, that anti-piracy efforts might be more needed somewhere earlier in the chain than the exhibition...

Per

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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

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From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999


 - posted 12-14-2003 08:27 PM      Profile for Steve Guttag   Email Steve Guttag   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I can honestly say that Reel 7 of LOTR:The Two Towers (not affiliated with Twin Towers tragedy in any way) was destroyed by excessive CRAP CODING at the Uptown...probably averages one flash per minute and often right where the action is so you will be looking at them.

Are they trying to make movies so not worth watching that no one should come, let alone copy?

Steve

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Frank Angel
Film God

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From: Brooklyn NY USA
Registered: Dec 1999


 - posted 12-15-2003 02:05 AM      Profile for Frank Angel   Author's Homepage   Email Frank Angel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Has this absurd security stuff be happening just on the sneak previews or has it move to the normal first run engagments? If it only happens at the sneaks, then I don't understand why NATO can't simply tell the MPAA that this is intrusive and detrimental to business and just like all the studios sign-on to MPAA decisions, the chains could just say the NATO policy is that their theatres will not run any sneaks where patrons are wanded or searched. That would put a stop to this nonsense (to say nothing of wonderful idea of hundreds of patrons stuffing aluminum balls in the bottom of the popcorn buckets.

Do the theatre's get paid to show the sneaks? Aren't some sneaks run in theatres where the picture will not play? We get paid to run the sneaks -- they essentially four-wall the theatre, so I guess they can stipulate what they want. But still, we wouldn't let them do ANYTHING they want and we certainly would consider refusing to booth the theatre to them if it had a negative effect on patron perception of our operation.

I think this whole issue of security procedures should be agressively addressed by NATO. What NATO needs is its own version of Jack Valenti! Someone who can annoy the opposition into submission.

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John Hawkinson
Film God

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From: Cambridge, MA, USA
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 - posted 12-15-2003 01:16 PM      Profile for John Hawkinson   Email John Hawkinson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Frank asks, "Has this absurd security stuff be happening just on the sneak previews or has it move to the normal first run engagments?"

Assuming you're talking about CAP code, it has nothing to do with sneak previews. It started pretty much across the board and did not begin with sneak previews, but with all prints. Note that there were no sneak previews of the extended LOTR features (as far as I know).

--jhawk

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