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Christian Appelt
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This thread reminds me of a scene in THE HUDSUCKER PROXY when the marketing guys try to find a name for the hula-hoop gizmo! I hope Brad tested his device like they did in that movie! [Smile]

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Scott D. Neff
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Why am I reminded of The Hudsucker Proxy with this thing? You know... for kids.

I am pleased to see Brad has finally debuted his invention. I had the wonderful honor of informing Brad that I had seen these done before elsewhere, but in a much more custom made design, made locally for each specific type of platter each theatre used. He was not pleased with me. His ring though is much sturdier than others I've seen and MUCH easier to mount on the platter.

As far as names go... I think again we should look to the Hudsucker Proxy... and call it...

THE WACKY CIRCUMFERENCE!

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Brad Miller
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Did I make a mistake by calling them "Film-Tech Media Pads"? Should they be called "MediaGuard"?

Richard, there is no really good way to produce one of these for a SPECO platter since the motor drives the deck along the outer edge. It would require drilling holes into the platter and making a really large version of a center ring to fit on the outer edge. The goal of this was to make it to be able to fit virtually any platter and for there to not need to be any modifications to the equipment to be able to use it. This way when a theater closes with them, the safety rings can be taken to another location, even if they have a different model of platter.

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John Pytlak
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Is the SPECO deck ferrous? Could magnets or "Sticky-Poo" or "Bevan-Poo" [Wink] adhesive be used to hold a ring in place?

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Scott Norwood
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John--yes, magnets would work, though a flexible ring probably wouldn't be as strong as Brad's version (which is completely rigid).

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John Pytlak
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My suggestion is a robust and solid ring like Brad's, but using built-in magnets to hold it in place. Only caution would be to avoid using it in a theatre where mag stripe prints are ever shown.

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Scott D. Neff
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The platters at the Gateway 12 in Tucson have exactly what Brad described. It's basically a HUGE center ring placed on the outside of the film. Each deck is drilled so that the ring can fit. I think they use Neumade platters there. There really is no reason they couldn't use the PlatterGuard or whatever it is. I have some pictures I'll find and post if anybody is interested.

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Steve Kraus
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This way when a theater closes with them, the safety rings can be taken to another location,

They're all out of work...children are going hungry...expensive equipment is idle...investors have lost a bundle...but thank God those rings have found a new home!

hehehe...sorry couldn't resist. [Wink] Brilliant idea actually.

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Brad Miller
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You didn't quote the entire sentence.

"This way when a theater closes with them, the safety rings can be taken to another location, even if they have a different model of platter."

The part you omitted is the key point here. If the theater is very old and has equipment that isn't worth moving to another location, certain things in the booth like splicers, film cleaners and safety rings can find a new home, even if the make/model of the equipment in the new theater is different.

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Steve Kraus
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Yes, but that wouldn't be as funny. I rather like the idea...sort of like Monty Python's tomatoes that eject before collision. "Where are the rings?" "They all split for AMC!" "Uh oh! [Big Grin]

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Max Biela
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What about "FilmGuard"? [Wink]

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Steve Kraus
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Film Guard. Same great taste but now available in a solid as well as original liquid.

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Mike Blakesley
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OK, since the demise of John Eickhof Inc. I've been buying stuff from Claco, home of our esteemed film-techer, Mark Gulbrandsen. This post is for him, (for reasons that will become clear, I'm using this method to contact him). The rest of you can skip to the next regularly scheduled post.

Mark, are you guys at Claco going to stock this item? I sent Dennis an email, got no response....tried to get your email address from the film-tech site but you've got it blocked... tried to send you an email directly through film-tech but I get the message, "The administrator or the user has blocked access to this e-mail address."

So hopefully you'll get the message this way. (BTW we have a Christie AW3 platter.)

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Paul Konen
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Since having a couple for a few weeks. I want to thank Brad for this cool product.

I have it on LOTR:ROTK and suddenly on Sat (1/10/04) a platter went goofy and the timing went away. Needless to say, the ring did it's job, keep the print on the platter and the show played to the end. This platter had been running this print for at least a day and then it happened. Just goes to show ya.

Again, thanks Brad.

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Steve Kraus
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Maybe Brad should give them away and then charge on a per-saved-show basis. (Personally I may start charging for unnecessary apostrophies. LOL)

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