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Greg Routenburg
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 178
From: Toronto, ON, Canada
Registered: May 2003


 - posted 01-25-2004 11:16 PM      Profile for Greg Routenburg   Email Greg Routenburg   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm afraid I'm going to have to agree with the Thumbs Down crowd on this one. I've worked with both the Simplex and Century variety and in both cases the origional gate/trap designs seem to do a much better job. My biggest beef with them is maintaining a steady picture. They don't seem to be consistant from one show to the next unless you say consistantly bad. And they also are a pain in the ass to close when you're threading them. in general they just suck.

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David Kilderry
Master Film Handler

Posts: 355
From: Melbourne Australia
Registered: Sep 1999


 - posted 01-27-2004 06:14 AM      Profile for David Kilderry   Author's Homepage   Email David Kilderry   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Gordon, if there are major focus issues with a Kelmar turret and aperture conversion on a Century or Simplex with a big lamp, I would suggest the units are not installed correctly or there are problems in the light path.

At our drive-in, the Lunar in Melbourne, Australia, we run a Century DAW with Kelmar turret and aperture conversion on our smallest screen. The lamphouse is a Strong Super 80 and we operate a 5K lamp at the rated current 135 - 150 amps. We have a very steady image on our 80ft screen with good depth of field for focus and excellent light.

The image compares very favourably with our other two larger fields where we run Philips/Norelco AA2's in original spec. again with Strong lamphouses.

Ian, all parts for the Simplex and Kelmar can be purchased through your local Atlab Image and Sound branch.

David

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Gordon McLeod
Film God

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From: Toronto Ontario Canada
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 01-27-2004 02:50 PM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
We had had Dick Prather do the conversion and I trust his machine work to a T [thumbsup]
Also in a drivein your lens focal length would be much longer so backfocus would be less of an issue

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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From: Music City
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 01-27-2004 09:33 PM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
While I too would trust Dicks work to a tee, but the front end mount has to be set up properly with the Kelmar jigs for everything to work correctly. If it was not or if something happened in shipping then it could be out of alignment. Its actually far better to keep all the work for mounting a Kelmar Turrett to local capable people so nothing can be compromised. Or even better do it right in the theatre and align first with the Kelmar jigs and then double check and tweek it with the Schneider equipment. This way minor corrections can be made for best overall focus.
Mark

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Manny Knowles
"What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???"

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From: Bloomington, IN, USA
Registered: Feb 2002


 - posted 01-27-2004 09:44 PM      Profile for Manny Knowles   Email Manny Knowles   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Greg wrote:

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I've worked with both the Simplex and Century variety and in both cases the origional gate/trap designs seem to do a much better job. My biggest beef with them is maintaining a steady picture. They don't seem to be consistant from one show to the next unless you say consistantly bad.
Why would you prefer the original gates/traps if they don't provide a steady picture? [Confused]

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