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Topic: Neumade Platters
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Will Kutler
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1506
From: Tucson, AZ, USA
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 01-27-2004 08:09 AM
I will repeat what I said earlier:
The structural make-up of the Neumade Platters that I have seen are by far more "beefed up" than other brands on the market.
Unlike other brands, the Neumade roller design is more likely to prevent accidental film damage. And neither theater has reported problems of roller-bearing equipped rollers over-spinning and dumping film on the floor.
The platter decks are unpainted metal, and seemed to be quite sturdy.
The machines were running very smoothly, and unlike other brands, they were dead-quiet...you literally could not hear them run.
The only major "down-side" that I could detect is that the Neumade is a little more complex to thread-up than other brands. This is easily solved by marking the rollers with numbered decals, which will indicate the threading path and sequence. But after threading the Neumades a few times, threading becomes second nature.
I will not comment about the electronics of these machines, as I have no experience. What I will say is that the two theatres where I have seen these machines in operation have not reported ongoing major malfunctions.
But if there are in-fact electronic issues, these can always be readdressed and redesigned.
Once again, in my opinion, the STRUCTURAL MAKE-UP of these machines is by far superior to other brands on the market.
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Gregory N. Jones
Film Handler
Posts: 27
From: Newtown, CT, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 01-27-2004 10:10 AM
Trevor, good point you bring up on the feed out plate pin. It was designed to snap off if a wrap occurred to prevent gears from stripping in the projector. In theory great idea, $.50 to replace a pin, in the real world from day-to-day operations of taking the payout head in and out weakens the pin and eventually snaps it off=annoying. We do offer hardened pins or I know a lot of techs just replace the pin with a screw. This is on the list for the redesign.
Regarding the XNR payout heads, the NXP phone socket spindle (plugs into deck arm) can be used, the only difference is the mounting holes are threaded in the old XNR design. Part number 110106110.
We had two different designs for the NXP payout head, the original design incorporated a teardrop shaped plate with a single exit roller. When polyester film came out we redesigned the head to help alleviate the problem with static build-up and brain wraps. This design had a more elliptical plate and two exit rollers, which works well with the polyester film. We do offer kits to upgrade the old style NXP heads to the new polyester style, part number POHKITP.
Gordon, thanks for the positive comment on our Make-up tables. Mark, a lot of the products you spoke of are at least 10 years old. As most of you know we had a bit of a shake up here 7 or so years ago so much has changed for the better. As John has stated if you look at any companies product, you can find fault. What I don't understand is that when there is a problem with a product, TELL THE MANUFACTURER, don't just bash it and let it be. How are we, as manufacturers, supposed to fix a problem if we don't hear about it? I'm not being sarcastic or condesending, I would just like to see a little bit more communication between the field techs and the manufacturers. I do understand that you get frustrated when you do tell and they don't do anything about it but problems don't fix themselves.
Just a brainstorm, sorry to rant guys!!
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Mark Gulbrandsen
Resident Trollmaster
Posts: 16657
From: Music City
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 01-27-2004 09:48 PM
Greg,
Actually the reviews, photos, etc., I talked about were from an install I did about three years ago. Consoles, automation, if ya want to call it automation, I call it a rats nest.... Consoles miswired at the factory.... Anyway, I just pretty much stay away from even the new stuff. Yes, the platters I talked about were at least 10 years old but the retrofit kits were new and the small micros are just as crappy as the reed switches. Oh yes, and the 8 perf LF platter that went through motors, etc. The operators hated it for many reasons, the MUT was also never complete. The film keepers are nice though.
Years back when Neumade bought out Xetron the first thing I noticed was alot lighter weight construction of the lamphouses, the second thing I noticed was the smashed in corner on one of them. The pre Neumade Xetrons were definately of heavier gauge construction.
Gord,
In reality you should have worked all those hours to get CSA changed. Just think you would have been a hero of sorts in both countries!
Mark
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