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John Walsh
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From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way
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 - posted 01-26-2004 09:14 PM      Profile for John Walsh   Email John Walsh   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well, don't get Steve and I started on Ernamann 15's again [Big Grin]

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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 - posted 01-26-2004 09:55 PM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
"Ha...let's face it, a decent Super Simplex head is steadier than the typical release print today."
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Definately steadier in the verticle plain but not horizontally unless you equip it with a Posi-Trol sprocket. There is a lack of good lateral guidance on Supers and Standards. Had you said E-7 you'd have hit the nail on the head.

Mark @ CLACO

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Richard Fowler
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 - posted 01-27-2004 03:02 AM      Profile for Richard Fowler   Email Richard Fowler   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The IMAX technician for Central / South Florida in his cinema in the Caribbean they operate with E-7 heads.....he has no plans to swap them out.

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William Bunch
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From: Misawa, Japan
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 - posted 01-27-2004 05:29 AM      Profile for William Bunch   Author's Homepage   Email William Bunch   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Bruk, I used to swear by the old Simplex XL. Then we installed a new Kinoton FP25E in October and that sure changed my preference. I agree with everything Stephen Jones has to say in the first reply above. If you get a chance go see one in action and talk to those who run it and maintain it.

Bill BuncH

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Gordon McLeod
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 - posted 01-27-2004 02:53 PM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Richard Eric got those E7's from me they were in service for years in a toronto porn theatre before we removed them

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Richard Fowler
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 - posted 01-27-2004 03:00 PM      Profile for Richard Fowler   Email Richard Fowler   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
So the secret to long life on an E-7 is to use KY jelly [Wink]
Eric is a very nice tech who usually does not have anything bother him, no matter how bad.

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Phil Hill
I love my cootie bug

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 - posted 01-27-2004 03:06 PM      Profile for Phil Hill   Email Phil Hill       Edit/Delete Post 
Richard, does that apply to all E-7s, or only to those in porno theatres?

>>> Phil

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Richard Fowler
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Phil....only if they are showing them filums....I assume the squirt pump could handle the lube but the intermittent may moan too much [Cool]

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Phil Hill
I love my cootie bug

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DOh! [Big Grin]

Interesting side note: In the original "Aliens" the goop dripping from the creature's mouth was a combination of K-Y and mineral oil.

Don't know what they used in the pics after that original one since I didn't work on them.

>>> Phil

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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 - posted 01-27-2004 09:24 PM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Phil,
What was that you said... you were the Alien in the original Alien movie??? Surely not the one that popped out of the guys stomach.......

I had the good...ok, not good, but fortune to remove X-L's fomr several Porno theatres, one in Evansville, In, and in Grand Rapids. Those were indeed slippery machines!
Mark

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Phil Hill
I love my cootie bug

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Mark: Don't call me surely (Shirley)! [Razz]

>>> Phil

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Steve Kraus
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 - posted 01-28-2004 07:55 AM      Profile for Steve Kraus     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I had the good...ok, not good, but fortune to remove X-L's fomr several Porno theatres, one in Evansville, In, and in Grand Rapids.

Ya gotta respect machines that have brought so much pleasure to so many.

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Larry Shaw
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 - posted 01-28-2004 08:27 PM      Profile for Larry Shaw   Author's Homepage   Email Larry Shaw   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I suspect Mark is referring mainly to DP-70 parts when he mentions "extremely high price of the European parts". If so, all I can ask is: 1. what other manufacturer is still supplying most all the parts for projectors they made 50 years ago (not to mention the even older FP-5's, etc)? 2. How many DP-70 shafts, gears and movements have you replaced because they wore out, compared with other "lower priced parts" projectors?

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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No, I wasn't really thinking of the DP70 thats for sure. Just those other European machines that have excessively high parts costs for machines with somewhat marginal performance even when they are new. As you mentioned, the DP70 and other older Phillips projectors probably represent the most return in service per parts cost and performance of any projectors ever built. If I counted on a yearly basis the major parts we put into the 60 or so continously in service DP-70's that are out here I could easily count them on just one hand. Last year in fact it was just one main drive gear set!!

On some rebuilds though the parts expense occasionlly gets somewhat high but on others they may need only minor parts. So on a large job the customer ends up paying about as much for one of our rebuilt DP70's as he might for a new Simplex Millennium. We typically never see or hear about them after the initial install till we make a normal service visit which never seems to entail making repairs to the DP70's. Whilst a booth full of Simplex's, Centurys...well, thats another story.

As a result of the high reliability of the DP70 we already have double digit orders for rebuilds this year alone. If it keeps up like this they may have to put the whole thing back in production!

Mark @ CLACO

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Larry Shaw
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 - posted 01-29-2004 12:24 AM      Profile for Larry Shaw   Author's Homepage   Email Larry Shaw   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
What a sweet fantasy that is! [Big Grin]

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