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Peter Hall
Master Film Handler

Posts: 314
From: London, UK
Registered: Dec 2000


 - posted 02-05-2004 01:32 PM      Profile for Peter Hall   Author's Homepage   Email Peter Hall   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Leo -

Did you confuse "sadly" with "typically "??

Cant you remember Neil ?
Or borderline Nick ?

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Leo Enticknap
Film God

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From: Loma Linda, CA
Registered: Jul 2000


 - posted 02-05-2004 01:55 PM      Profile for Leo Enticknap   Author's Homepage   Email Leo Enticknap   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
My lips are discretely sealed! But they'd both seem positively mundane compared to The Projectionist...

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Frank Angel
Film God

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From: Brooklyn NY USA
Registered: Dec 1999


 - posted 02-06-2004 08:39 AM      Profile for Frank Angel   Author's Homepage   Email Frank Angel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I must say, considering that Kodak is a major mover in developing digital imaging technologies and has staked out its role in this technology, I have never read anything coming out of the company, be it press releases or technical discussions about digital imaging that come anywhere near the outlandish and quite frankly incredible that just seem to be flying out of TI and of course with the assist of George Lucas. In contrast, Kodak's statements always seem balanced and sober. I guess their history and corporate culture would preclude anyone from Kodak to be bashing film! Even when they are talking about the benefits of digital imaging, there is always a reverence for film that is quite palpable (as it should be).

Both TI and to a lesser extent Huges, and even the George The Great, seem to have gone mercifully mute of late, but I won't soon forget the nonsense that they were spouting about the death of film only a few years ago. What made it worse, was that in their never-ending quest for the overly dramatic and the titilating, the news media just picked up this hogwash and regurgitated it nearly verbatum, as if it were
a fact, never bothering to do any real investigating or talk to people in the field.

I recall hearing a piece broadcast on CBS News Radio here in NY, around the first STAR WARS "event of the century" as Lucas called it. I believe this "news" item was networked to their entire O&O stations across the country, in which the newscaster simply stated as fact that within a year, half the theatres in the country would be showing digital movies (with the infuriating description that we have all heard so often, that digital movies will look as good the last time they are run as they did the first....so unlike dirty, scratchy, JITTERY film -- digital is ROCK STEADY!) But the "report" didn't stop there; it then went on to proclaim that in TWO years, film as we know it would be gone. I remember yelling back at the car radio a string of cuss words that need no repeating here -- you all know them.

So how does the general public get these blatantly erronious ideas about where digital is going and how fast and its so-called benefits? Simple: it's the half-assed media which will say anything if it is "exciting" and dramatic and which they can get easily without a lot of footwork -- like sticking a microphone in front of the TI publicist and taking an interview with a guy whose job it is to SELL a product -- now THERE'S an unbiased viewpoint. Once they've got a sound bite, who cares where it comes from or if it is given to then by a biased party or if it is accurate or even if it is fiction. Much like the way they cover what's happening in the government.

Rant over....until the next time I hear any more of this BS.

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Robert E. Allen
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Checotah, Oklahoma
Registered: Jul 2002


 - posted 02-06-2004 01:59 PM      Profile for Robert E. Allen   Email Robert E. Allen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I wonder if Katherine can use an old projectionist?

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Randy Stankey
Film God

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From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 02-06-2004 02:32 PM      Profile for Randy Stankey   Email Randy Stankey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Let me tell you my little story...

When I got out of college in 1992 I came home to Erie and worked as a TV salesman of a local store. I would get a fair number of customers who would come in espousing the virtues of digital/Hi-Def television and saying things like, "In a few years you won't have a job selling these "Old Fashioned" TVs anymore.

I would look them right in the face and tell them that digital TV is bullcrap and that it would be at LEAST 20 years until digital TV was commonplace. That was 12 years ago and digital TV has barely gotten a toe hold. The only reason that is happening, in my opinion, is because of the development (and marketing) of plasma displays. I can't imagine digital TV being commonplace for at least another 10 years. Probably longer.

Right here. Right now. I'm going to make the same prediction: It'll be no less than 10 years (and likely closer to 20-25 years) before digital movies in theaters are common. Furthermore, I say it will take the development of a totally new technology (even different than what has been developing in DLP) to make it a reality.

Now, to contrast TV and film's transition to the "digital age" you'll have to remember that the technology of television broadcasting has been through a series of compromises such that it's high time improvements be made. With film, although changes have been made to improve the technology, the basic premise has stayed the same for over 100 years. You can take a reel of film from 50 or even 100 years ago, make some relatively minor modifications and run it through a modern movie projector. Just try taking some old tapes of the Johnny Carson Show and broadcasting them on television in France. Sure it can be done if you muck around with it but not like you can with film.

I think digital video is cool but I don't think it's ready for Prime Time... Not any time soon.

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Leo Enticknap
Film God

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From: Loma Linda, CA
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Interesting. Digital terrestrial television (broadcast as PAL MPEG-2 streams) has taken off in a big way here over the last two years or so. But the technology used to deliver it to people's homes are so-called 'digiboxes', which receive the signal, convert it to analogue and then pipe it into an existing telly via a Euroconnector or RF lead.

TV sets with built in digital decoders, let alone those which actually form the display digitally, are still nowhere to be seen.

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