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Steve Kraus
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 - posted 02-17-2004 07:48 PM      Profile for Steve Kraus     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Is laser really better? What do you make of those CELCO ads that show comparative output from laser and one of their CRT-based units and the latter seems to have better definition?

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John Hawkinson
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Surely it depends on the pixel size of the CRT and the beam width of the laser...

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Robert Harris
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The point here is that with a native format of VVLA, it makes no difference whether the recorded IP is Vista or 65mm.

One still must create the printing neg. The only difference between a 65mm dupe derived from a 65 element and a Vista element would be an extremely slight -- to my eye not noticeable -- difference in contrast as a result of the optical generation from Vista as opposed to 65.

Even this can be made a part of the process by lowering the contrast of the IP in relation to any perceived buildup in the optical, which is nil.

Before creating final dupes, we went through a proper testing process via which a Vista IP was both optically and contact duped to a printing neg.

With the newest incarnations of Eastman interdupes, there was no difference to the naked eye. Might one be measured? My feeling is that if you can't see it on film, it doesn't matter.

We will use densitometer readings to verify what we see over a lightbox to confirm that we are actually seeing something.

Film doesn't lie.

RAH

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Bill Enos
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It now seems to me that archive prints really are limited circulation, conditional use prints. Something truly archival would rarely leave the vault, and certainly not to be shipped to a theater for any reason.

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Steve Kraus
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Here is CELCO's laser vs. CRT comparision. I have no idea what to believe but it's interesting nonetheless.

http://www.celco.com/TechnologyComparison.asp

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John Pytlak
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One advantage of laser recording is more light, so that a slower (e.g., Kodak VISION Color Intermediate Film 2242) can be used, rather than a faster (i.e., slightly more grainy) camera speed film used for CRT recording.

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