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Pete Lawrence
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 192
From: Middleburg, PA
Registered: Aug 1999


 - posted 02-11-2004 11:26 AM      Profile for Pete Lawrence   Email Pete Lawrence   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The MSDS links that John provided completely contradict each other when it comes to first aid for swallowing MEK. I wonder what else they messed up on?

Anyway, unless your state has banned it, MEK is available in the paint department at your local Home Depot. [Big Grin]

It's a great solvent, but it sure stinks.

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John Pytlak
Film God

Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000


 - posted 02-11-2004 04:05 PM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Remember, it is the responsibility of the vendor of the material to supply the MSDS, based on the data and testing they have done. So it is possible that different vendors may have different MSDS information, although the data will usually be consistent. (That's why I posted links to two different ones).

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Ken McFall
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 615
From: Haringey, London.
Registered: Apr 2001


 - posted 02-11-2004 04:13 PM      Profile for Ken McFall   Email Ken McFall   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have to agree that it's not a good idea to have every possible cleaning solution at each projector. I've removed everything except a yellow duster, Jack Roe sprocket brush and a small 1" paint brush from ecah projector. I've also taken to stopping the use of the compressed air gun to 'Clean' the projectors after each run!

Compressed air was only ever to be a tool, to assist in cleaning and never to replace cleaning of the projector.

I've supplied my own Driklen cleaner and have started to FilmGuard every print.... the difference is astonishing!

There is now NO build up on the gate plate or runners and no dust from the print at all. The only change to normal operation is to increase the gate tension for the first couple of runs.

Using air guns only spreads the dirt all over the mech, sound optics and lenes!

I agree that lenses should only be cleaned when needed so the risk of scratching is reduced. The same goes for the sound optics.... The only way they are going to get dirty is if dirt is sprayed onto them! So don't use air and they stay cleaner for much longer.

Film Guard plays a very improtant part in keeping the film itself and the projectors clean. So reduce the dust etc from the prints and you reduce the number of problems that inexperienced hands can inflict on the show while attempting to clean equipment.

As for using solvents on the equipment.... never! I've never found solvents any good at removing build up on gate plates anyway.

I like the idea of having a trolly with all of the special cleaning solutions required. It could also house all of the specific tools needed to work on the equipment when carrying out maintenance etc.

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Steve Kraus
Film God

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From: Chicago, IL, USA
Registered: May 2000


 - posted 02-11-2004 10:42 PM      Profile for Steve Kraus     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I wasn't suggesting blasting lenses with high pressure to clean off abrasive grit but if it's just ordinary lint-like fibers out of the air then I think blowing it off with one's breath or very gentle gas (at a sideways angle) is preferrable to anything involving direct contact.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
Resident Trollmaster

Posts: 16657
From: Music City
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 02-11-2004 11:11 PM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Clearing the surface of a coated piece of glass with a camels hair brush has been the norm since the dawn of photography. Somthing to do with the softness of camels hair. While ones breath might not hurt the coating the chance of slobbering on the glass when one blows on it is also there. As for bottled gas I really dislike the stuff and if the bottle is aimed at an off angle the bottle can also emit a bad residue thats very difficult to remove. Perhaps John P. can elaborate on whats in those cans of compressed gas you buy at the store. I use them myself but mainly for cleaning the dust out of my computer and keyboard.

Mark @ CLACO

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Erika McCarty
Film Handler

Posts: 21
From: McKinney, TX/New Haven, CT
Registered: Nov 2003


 - posted 02-11-2004 11:20 PM      Profile for Erika McCarty   Email Erika McCarty   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well, Chris, I would agree only the basics (brush, rag, toothbrush) are neccessary next to all 14 projectors.

Our booth isn't THAT big...a little walking never killed anyone.

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William Hooper
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1879
From: Mobile, AL USA
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 02-11-2004 11:50 PM      Profile for William Hooper   Author's Homepage   Email William Hooper   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well, there's a memory slip. I remember it being regulated as a carcinogen by OSHA back in the 80s or so.

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Chris Medley
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 180
From: McKinney, TX, USA
Registered: Jan 2004


 - posted 02-12-2004 01:10 AM      Profile for Chris Medley   Author's Homepage   Email Chris Medley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks Erika...you know I always like your input....well...most of the time...kidding [thumbsup]

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