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Darryl Spicer
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I did some searching around about the subject and the inventor Terry Beard. I found a PDF file that I did not copy from or link to so just do a search using Terry Beard and you will come across it. In that PDF there was a referance to two unnamed films of smaller scaled productions that were used for testing. One was for testing timecode application to the film and the effects on the analog track and the other was done to convince Steven Spielberg that the system worked. With the second experiment the system used a hard drive for the information. Prior to that they were using DAT tape but that was not feasable because it could not jump far enough for large film cuts. No names for the films were given and no mention of more than Two films used for the tests.

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Michael Schaffer
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There are quite a few people with the same name who don`t have anything to do with DTS. Pleae make it a little easier for us by providing the link or at least tell us what search engine you use.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Phil, Correct me if I'm wrong.....
But a very similar form of DTS was in use by Iwerks for large format presentations. This was also read off of CD-ROMS as well but was refrenced to a time code generator controled by a tach generator rather than read off the film. I believe this use predates Jurassic Park by at least two years.

I also did the saerch for Terry Beard and there are many of them.

Mark @ CLACO

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Darryl Spicer
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dtstech whitpapers pdf file

Sorry about that guys. I did so many different search variations that I wasn't sure wich one it was. I made a link to what I was talking about. If you put DTS or Digital theater systems before Terry Brown you will find more things.

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Bobby Henderson
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Didn't Strong and Ballantine have a sound on disc prototype system? I remember seeing a blurb about that one back in the early 1990s (in Millimeter Magazine) when all the different digital sound formats were fixing to debut. That one referred to it using 12" laserdiscs for the audio. Wierd.

The LC Digital and IMAX/Sonics system (using 3 red book LPCM CD discs) both preceeded DTS by a year or two.

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Michael Schaffer
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There was a similar system in France (was that LC Digital?), and Kinoton also proposed a sound system with external storage media and timecode. I think DTS had to buy the French company out in order to get started in Europe.

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Richard Fowler
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LC was bought out by DTS, they had units in the field and had encoded some features around the time of the Jurassic Park release. Karasync, a system which read the analog soundtrack to slave their digital unit, appeared and promptly disappeared.

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Bill Gabel
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The Strong system was DLS (Digital Laser Sound).

Dolby used Pacific Theatres Northridge Cinemas in Northridge, California as a Test theatre for SRD for "Star Trek VI". And they used Pacific's El Capitian also to test "Newsies" in SRD.

Back in 1993, The Universal Studios Sound Department head made up side view drawing of a Century JJ with all the different Digital sound system readers mounted on the head. I have the drawing up in my booth.

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Aaron Sisemore
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Dean: You may have been using the 'Buzz & Bill Show' (DTS test/demo reel) for interlock training: it features a scene from Backdraft with lots of fire in it...

The Buzz & Bill Show disc is required to play it in DTS, of course.

-Aaron

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Michael Schaffer
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quote:
Karasync, a system which read the analog soundtrack to slave their digital unit, appeared and promptly disappeared.
How did that work?

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Richard Fowler
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The unit would read the waveform on the analog track and would match the digital file to playback. There where many discussions at technical seminars during the period but no actual demostrations to witness. They did not have the financial power of Dolby or DTS to hang on.

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