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Author Topic: Film cans with pad locks on them Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-19-2004 06:37 PM                     So, they couldn't use Serialized Security Seals? Snap one of these on each can when it's sent out. Put an unused one inside each can to be locked onto the hasp when it's returned. Both the broken ones and the "new" ones would have to be sent back with the print. Serial numbers would be recorded and questions would have to be answered if a can was found with the wrong tag on it. Not to say that this is the perfect solution but it literally took me one minute to do a Google search to find this product and about another 30 seconds to think up the procedure. With all their security consultants drawing million dollar salaries they couldn't come up with something better than my idea? Or do they spend all their time and money smoking dope and circle jerking each other?  |  IP: Logged Bill Gabel Film God Posts: 3873 From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 02-19-2004 08:12 PM                     Its been done and is still being used by some companies and post-houses. But Disney went for the Big locks.  |  IP: Logged Steve Kraus Film God Posts: 4094 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 02-19-2004 09:39 PM                    It's especially funny when you get the fancy seals and realize that the hasp can go right over them without having to cut them. And "reseal" it the same way. Of course the IQ of the person likely to steal the print doesn't realize this so it's still a deterrent.  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-19-2004 10:08 PM                     The seals I'm thinking of are too big to go through the hole. Plus, if you want, you can buy them made so that they can be broken by hand or you can get them so that they must be cut off.  |  IP: Logged John Hawkinson Film God Posts: 2273 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 02-19-2004 10:11 PM                     Security seals that are easily cut off are not a major deterrent. Padlocks are a significantly higher bar. --jhawk  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-19-2004 10:24 PM                     First, locks will only keep out the honest crooks. Second, your average lock doesn't indicate whether or not it's been opened and then locked again. A seal that must be destroyed to open it is the way to go IMHO.  |  IP: Logged Jason Black Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1723 From: Myrtle Beach, SC, USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 02-19-2004 10:50 PM                        If and when we get a print with a padlock, it *will* be cut off. We had 6 prints come in today. My guys build on my time, not the distributors. When they begin to pay for the buildup/breakdown payroll, I'll give the locks consideration. Until then...  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 02-20-2004 10:22 AM                     You may find that the higher ups in your company in effect have agreed to the locks in the terms of the rental agremeent  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 02-20-2004 10:15 PM                     Randy said: quote: A seal that must be destroyed to open it is the way to go IMHO. I certainly agree.  |  IP: Logged Joe Schmidt Expert Film Handler Posts: 172 From: Billings, Montana, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 02-21-2004 06:45 PM                     "Insanity. Insanity. This Lunatic Scheme will Destroy Us All!!" From "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea," 1961  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 04-29-2004 11:53 PM                        We got a print of "America's Heart and Soul" (a Disney title) tonight. With heavy-duty combination padlocks. TES gave us the correct combination for one of the two cans. I had to open the other one by prying the latch off, thus destroying the can (which took all of about two minutes). This was for a director's screening, so refusing to play the print until we got a valid combination wasn't exactly an option. I wouldn't be so upset about this if I thought that the padlocks would actually be effective at stopping film piracy.  |  IP: Logged

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