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Gracia L. Babbidge
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I liked to refer to myself as working in the 'dungeon upstairs'. [evil]

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Gary Crawford
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When I started in the early 1970s they all were called "booths" no matter now big or small they were. One old former stage house had a six-sided cube of transite (hard asbestos panels) installed in what used to be an attic. That was also a "booth."

Projection "room" seems to have come into being when the first multis were built, at least around here. It actually was a room as opposed to after-thought hanging metal boxes or rebuilt attics and upper balconies.

Around here we simply call the projectors "machines". Thread up #1 machine, trim the lamp in #2 machine, etc. Other things we used to have were simply "spots", "FX", "Slide", etc. and with numbers (starting with the left side machine as seen from the back of them). Not very creative but we all knew what machine was being referred to.

One of our guys claimed that a "booth" was accessed by a ladder and a "room" via a real staircase. Makes sense I guess.

My little concrete "booth" is lovingly referred to as "Gary's Little Cage." My own escape from the world, no one wants to climb that ladder. Fine with me.

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Matthew Bailey
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For simplicity & shortness of text should a projector head be called an image head?

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Moving Picture Machine is the correct term.

Mark

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Bill Gabel
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The Paramount Publix Theatres Corporation employee book of 1926, refers to the booth as Kinobooth.

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William Hooper
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I've seen 'room' & 'booth' in blueprints, & 'biograph box' sometimes, mostly in 'teens -era literature.

It's a booth in the Capitol/Metropolitan/Wang's 1st mezz plan (1925).

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Gary Crawford
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If have a manual from the 1920s from the Chicago Fire Dept (who was by far the toughest when it came to fire regulations for theaters in those days) and they refer to "film handling rooms". I believe this is a blanket term though, for anywhere film might be kept, including distribution warehouses and the like.

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William Hooper
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F.H. Richardson, _Motion Picture Handbook for Managers & Operators_, NY, 1910. F. H. Richardson wrote the Operators Column for the main US exhibition periodical Moving Picture World for many years.

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David Kilderry
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Yep, here in Australia it is mostly referred to as either the bio box or projection room, I use both terms. The Cinematograph Operators Board, who presided over the former projection licence here in the state of Victoria, Australia, referred to it as the "biograph cabin" in some literature.

As Hugh and others point out, one explanation from my own research has indeed been where the biograph equipment was housed. Another explanation I have come across, was that many early live houses ran film as just another entertainment during a burlesque or vaudeville show, in this instance the "life" or "bio" came from the box at the rear instead of the stage. Hence bio box.

David

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Scott Norwood
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Does the "booth" or "box" designation apply only to the room with the projectors or also to adjacent rooms with related equipment? It seems pretty common in older houses for there to be a large room with at least two film projectors and maybe a slide projector (Brenograph) and/or followspot, as well as a separate rewind/film storage room and a third room for rectifiers/generators and dimmer rheostats (sometimes located underneath the room with the projectors). Apparently some localities required these separate rooms and others didn't. In Massachusetts, it is (and, presumably, was) legal to have rheostats in the same room as the projectors. This probably wasn't true in other areas.

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Hugh McCullough
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In the UK it was common to use the term "Projection Suite".
This comprised of the projection box, rewind room. rectifier room, dimmer room, workshop, non-sync room, and other ancillary rooms etc.
If we were lucky it also had a rest room for the projectionists to, as the regulations put it, "Partake of light refreshment".

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Tim Reed
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quote:
"Partake of light refreshment".

I love the genteel way Britians say things. I'm sure living there would agree with me tremendously. I could live out my days in utter happiness.

[Smile]

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William Hooper
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quote:
Does the "booth" or "box" designation apply only to the room with the projectors or also to adjacent rooms with related equipment? It seems pretty common in older houses for there to be a large room with at least two film projectors and maybe a slide projector (Brenograph) and/or followspot, as well as a separate rewind/film storage room and a third room for rectifiers/generators and dimmer rheostats (sometimes located underneath the room with the projectors).
In the 19teens it was typical for the whole mess to be in the one fireproof room: projectors, rectifiers, etc. By about 1924 it was more typical to have a separate room for the rectifiers/motor generators. The room would either be off the booth, or in the entry hall/vestibule to the booth. In both cases, the construction of the room (or hall if there were rectifiers or generators there) was also bomb-proof concrete like the room with the projectors. In blueprints, I've seen it identified as either rectifier room or motor room. I don't know if it was an NEC or building codes thing, but designs seemed to be fairly univerally adopted as they went along, for safety or to play it safe with regs. By the time of the SMPTE Motion Picture Projection & Presentation Manual's 1969 diagram of a basic booth in "Physical Aspects of the Projection Room", the rectifiers are just sitting in the same single booth space with the projectors, etc.

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Jackson Gilman
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Sometimes it will be a while before I can do my laundry...and since I only get one uniform shirt, I work in a B.O. box. [Roll Eyes]

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Matt Frankish
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We like to call it "the Whirring Box."

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