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Andrew Duggan
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 127
From: Albany, NY, USA
Registered: Jun 2002


 - posted 03-16-2004 05:54 PM      Profile for Andrew Duggan   Author's Homepage   Email Andrew Duggan   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
You know, I meant to bring up the marks in question here when I saw Passion a week or so ago. It was driving me nuts to watch the movie like that!

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Frank Angel
Film God

Posts: 5305
From: Brooklyn NY USA
Registered: Dec 1999


 - posted 03-18-2004 01:03 PM      Profile for Frank Angel   Author's Homepage   Email Frank Angel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
FANTASIA -- What release? Paul, it was the 50th Anniversary release, 1989. We ran it then and we got the notice that Buena Vista attached to the standard booking contract which said that the film had to be shown 1.33 (sic) with lens and aperture plate to correctly product that image on the screen and that if the side masking could not be brought in to match the side edges of the image, additional black masking had to be installed. It also said that it had to be played in stereo and it could not be played in mono because of the phase distortion mixing the tracks would cause. It said that these conditions were not negotiable.

Did all exhibitors fulfill the contract? Do all exhibitors report accurate box office receipts? I leave that for you to answer. [uhoh]

And excuse my pride when I say that over the years, in every instance of our booking this masterpiece (at least on 4 occasions), be it the standard mono version, the 4trk mag version, even the "Superscope" version which we had to convert, we have ALWAYS played it 1.37. Playing this feature at 1.85 is a total abortion; if you saw it this way in a first run, presumably first class theatre and not some multiplex dive (where it did play, unfortunately) then that trailer trash exhibitor should be fined for breech of contract and worse, for breech of the most basic tenants of exhibition, i.e., not to cause harm to the filmmaker's work and not to destroy the ability of the audience to appreciate the filmmaker's work as he intended it. Disney ought to sue the beegeesus out of those exhibitors -- the lowlife pig people that they are.

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Thomas Procyk
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1842
From: Royal Palm Beach, FL, USA
Registered: Feb 2002


 - posted 03-19-2004 01:03 PM      Profile for Thomas Procyk   Email Thomas Procyk   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
What's the "official" aspect ratio of Passion? I've seen Scope films that call for everything from 2.35 to 2.39 to 2.40. Maybe the visibility of the edit splices would have something to do with the fact that it's really 2.40:1?

=TMP=

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John Pytlak
Film God

Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000


 - posted 03-19-2004 01:51 PM      Profile for John Pytlak   Author's Homepage   Email John Pytlak   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Standard SMPTE 195 specifies a projectable image area of 0.825 x 0.690 inches, which with a 2X anamorphic lens, has a 2.39:1 aspect ratio. Any "scope" movie made today is expected to meet this standard.

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