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Author Topic: Adjusting Neumade cutting blades Chris Hipp Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1462 From: Mesquite, Tx (east of Dallas) Registered: Jul 2003 posted 03-01-2004 07:03 PM                     It isnt that words of caution are bad, but when you say "dont be a tinkerer" and nothing else, that would say to me "I think you are stupid so why try?" Again, I know that is not what YOU are saying. On occasion I will make a comment and say not to do anything unless authorized or something along those lines but only if I am also trying to help them with the problem or question they asked. As far as assuming that Ken shouldnt do anything to his splicers because he made a problem worse...well, I am sure that there are some very seasoned techs out there that have royally screwed something up when they actually knew what they were doing, of course I doubt they would admit it.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 03-01-2004 07:25 PM                     Alright boys, stop it. Both of you are right and both of you are wrong. Manny, I have known a LOT of techs who have been doing the job for 30+ years who are like a virus to anything they touch. Chris, I think Manny is just generalizing. It all boils down to the person doing the work. However if the person does not have permission to fix something and there is any doubt whatsoever that he/she knows how to repair it properly, they are completely on their own if they screw it up. Personally, I find the people who can figure things out on their own without indepth formal training and only general guidance tend to be the best in the long run.  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-01-2004 09:41 PM                     The only reason I know how to assemble splicers is because I've had to reassemble so damn many of them. The first ones that I did were in my "home theater" that had either been dropped or had the afformetioned blade holder screw busted off. The first splicer I worked on wouldn't go back together. I thought, "Oh, Fuck!" It took me the better part of a day to get it together again. I don't mind fixing splicers but I HATE-HATE-HATE putting them back together again after somebody took it apart for no reason. With that in mind, I guess you could say I tinkered. I think that there should be a line drawn between "good tinkerer" and a "bad tinkerer": 1) Don't tinker with a critical system. If it can put a show out of commission don't touch it! I had two other splicers in my booth. If I killed one I had two more to fall back on. 2) Know your limits. If you aren't sure what you're fooling with don't fool with it. 3) Baby steps: Don't go diving in to something unless you understand the basics. Don't try to replace an intermittent unless you know how to do easier things like changing sprocket. 4) Ask, Ask, Ask! Talk to people who KNOW. Find out how things work. Read the manuals. Study how things in real life. Call your tech him his opinion when faced with a question. 5) If you screw it up, come clean. I have always lived under a rule: If you screw up admit it and you won't get into trouble. (Within reason.) If you screw up and try to cover it up you'll be in trouble twice. Once for screwing up. Once for lying. 6) The simplest rule: If it ain't broke don't fix it! I don't think Ken is in much danger of becoming a bad tinkerer.  |  IP: Logged Matt Zeiner Expert Film Handler Posts: 146 From: Windsor, CT USA Registered: Sep 2003 posted 03-02-2004 05:17 AM                     That doesn't preclude the possibility that they may also be tinkerers, Manny. Solid troubleshooting skills come from reason and experimentation...by definition. I know many electrical engineers who can design all sorts of crazy stuff, but couldn't troubleshoot themselves out of a paper bag if it had a hole in it.  |  IP: Logged Ken Lackner Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1907 From: Atlanta, GA, USA Registered: Sep 2001 posted 03-02-2004 04:12 PM                     Brad said: quote: Geez, the real solution here is to hire real projectionists. Brad, are you implying here that I am not a real projectionist? I am sure that is not what you meant (at least I hope not), but that certainly is one way it *could* be taken. If I were to take it that way, or worse, if you did mean it that way, I would find that to be far more insulting than Manny's comments. Actually, I don't find Manny's comments insulting. As he explained, he was not calling ME a tinkerer, he was cautioning me against becoming one. Thanks for the advice, Manny. I believe Randy hit the nail right on the head: quote: 1) Don't tinker with a critical system. If it can put a show out of commission don't touch it! I had two other splicers in my booth. If I killed one I had two more to fall back on. We have three other splicers. One of them is in perfect condition and I wouln't touch it. The other two are okay. This one was the worst before I cleaned it up. quote: 2) Know your limits. If you aren't sure what you're fooling with don't fool with it. I love to take things appart to learn how they work, but I have ALWAYS followed this rule. If I feel for a second that I am in over my head, I will stop and ask. So, am I a good tinkler....er...tinkerer?  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 03-02-2004 04:28 PM                     Ken, why don't you read the post right above the one where I made that comment. Notice the crack about how "wonderful" CIR splicers are? Get it now?  |  IP: Logged Ken Lackner Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1907 From: Atlanta, GA, USA Registered: Sep 2001 posted 03-03-2004 12:52 PM                     Brad, my appologies. Yes, I did see your comment about the CIR, but when you said "The real solution here...," I thought you were refering to the whole problem of people "messing" with splicers in general.  |  IP: Logged Stan Gunn Expert Film Handler Posts: 176 From: Clematis, in the hills near Melbourne Australia Registered: Aug 2000 posted 03-03-2004 04:57 PM                        Gee I was serious! Mind you the C I R splicer is the main one that is available, the asian copys are pretty crook mate, so ya doz the best yer can with wat yer got, criky me kangaroo just kicked the shiter out of me rooster,thatl upset me chooks. No cackleberrys tonight.  |  IP: Logged

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