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Will Kutler
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Tucson, AZ, USA
Registered: Feb 2001


 - posted 03-02-2004 11:53 PM      Profile for Will Kutler   Email Will Kutler   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
First, take the projector off the soundhead and run the soundhead by itself. If it locks up, then it is either the motor, or a bearing in the gearbox. Make sure the gear box has the proper oil level.

If the gearbox runs ok, then it is something to do with the projector head.

Use the books available on FT to trouble shoot the "head".

On the Super, the gear shafts rotate in the main casting. You may need to inspect the shafts and castings for burrs, which will require some disassembly.

Are you properly lubing the projector head? Are the oil tubes blocked?

Are the gear shafts running true? Are there damaged gears, or gears with excessive wear?

You need to use a logical approach to troubleshoot and isolate the problem.

Super and Regular/Standard double bearing intermittents were almost identical, except for the the style and placement of the oil filler tubes.

I never knew that Supers had intermittents with removable outer bearing ends?

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from)
Registered: Jun 2002


 - posted 03-03-2004 04:48 AM      Profile for Daryl C. W. O'Shea   Author's Homepage   Email Daryl C. W. O'Shea   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Since removing the intermittent totally frees everything up, there's not much point going through the hassle of removing the projection head from the sound head.

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Darryl Spicer
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From: Lexington, KY, USA
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 - posted 03-03-2004 09:49 AM      Profile for Darryl Spicer     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
I never knew that Supers had intermittents with removable outer bearing ends?

I am refering to the 1050 and the 1060 simplex models.

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Bob Koch
Expert Film Handler

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From: williams ca
Registered: Nov 2001


 - posted 03-03-2004 12:10 PM      Profile for Bob Koch   Email Bob Koch   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Still don`t know if the sprocket has a staking screw or taper pins. If you`ve taken the movement apart the starwheel shaft should turn freely and there should be barely perceptable end play. Since the movement was OK before you changed the sprocket I think the trouble is in the star shaft. If you had to force anything when removing the old sprocket you could have sprung the shaft.

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Dave Ganoe
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From: Point Marion, PA
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 - posted 03-03-2004 12:32 PM      Profile for Dave Ganoe   Email Dave Ganoe   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The sprocket uses 2 pins to hold it in place. The old pins came out pretty easy. I took the whole intermittent apart again and removed the cam which came out easily, the other shaft did not want to come out but after some light tapping it came out. Seemed a bit discolored and until I took it out it did not want to turn freely. cleaning it up and applying some fresh oil seem to loosen it up. Putting it back together went ok but when I run it there is a knocking sound like the cam and the other shaft that drives the cam are rubbing. if you tighten up the balancer that attaches to the back of the intermittent it gets rid of the noise but causes to much drag. I dont understand what keeps the drive shaft of the intermittent from moving inward toward the cam and rubbing together. Forgive me for not using the proper names of the items but its the best I can describe what is happening. I think bottom line is I will have to get another intermittent. Will a standard work in a super? At this point Id take what I can get.

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Gordon McLeod
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From: Toronto Ontario Canada
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 - posted 03-03-2004 07:22 PM      Profile for Gordon McLeod   Email Gordon McLeod   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The super the standard and the regular simplex are the same movement as did the wenzel ace the gardnier the ballantyne BW and the devry's with a different flywheel to allow the chain drive probably the most used in different machine movement ever
Did you use a v block to remove the taper pins if not the odds are you have damaged the shaft or the bushing it seats in

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