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Author Topic: EV Tl-880 Vs 4645c JBL Ron Lacheur Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 650 From: British Columbia, Canada Registered: Feb 2002 posted 06-10-2004 01:34 PM                     I think what Steve was saying Nicolas is that Electrovoice changed something in their EVX-180 18" driver, and that it doesn't perform as it once did.  |  IP: Logged Nicolas Jalabert Film Handler Posts: 24 From: Chambéry Rhone-alpes France Registered: Feb 2004 posted 06-10-2004 02:14 PM                     Ok thanks Ron, thus the 4645c is best subwoofer for the moment. I repeat it I do not have any budgetary limit I specify. does nobody have experience with the subwoof Tad Tl-1118 ? JALABERT Nicolas  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 06-11-2004 06:31 AM                     Yes, the EVX-180, the driver used in the TL-880 has been changed several times in recent years. I can't think of any other reason for the poor response I've measured and heard of recent TL-880Ds (they should have changed the suffix letter when they changed anything with the system anyway...it is deceptive). We do sell the CX1S but not generally overseas...I can look into it though. Steve  |  IP: Logged Nicolas Jalabert Film Handler Posts: 24 From: Chambéry Rhone-alpes France Registered: Feb 2004 posted 06-11-2004 09:55 AM                     Hello Steve guttag, the cs1x is it only solution for me which do not have an amplifier qsc crown. I got Hafler amp. If you know a salesman in Europe, known as it me. The best frontal speaker than you have listen install are which ??? For surround 8340a are they better than 8330a ? Thanks Nicolas  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 06-11-2004 10:59 AM                     First off, there is no such thing as a "best speaker" since everyone has different opinions on what is best. From the JBL line, the best bang for the buck remains the JBL 4675C-4LF (or the 4675C-8LF). Their 5000 series speakers, like the 5674 are considered JBL's best cinema speakers but they are 3-ways. As to surrounds, the 8340a is not necessarily better than the 8330a. The 8340a is more efficient and has more power handling and is suited to larger rooms. The 8330a is a flatter response speaker but does not have the power handling or the efficientcy of the 8340a. Which is the better choice depends on the room. Steve  |  IP: Logged Nicolas Jalabert Film Handler Posts: 24 From: Chambéry Rhone-alpes France Registered: Feb 2004 posted 06-11-2004 11:17 AM                     Hello Steve Guttag, well on that depends on the people for the choice of best the sub. Me I want a sub which as well as possible retranscribes the music, Net and square. I see that some guy use the 4645c for triphonique speaker system ! According to you the 8330a are adapted better for home cinema of low size than the 8340a ? what poses problem to me on the 8330a it is the alignement of the speakers. They are not aligned on the vertical axis. I always noticed a bad dispersion of the sound of surround when this type of enclosure is used in cinema. JALABERT Nicolas  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-11-2004 09:42 PM                     "Which is the better choice depends on the room." Another thing to interject here is that it is not just the room that is the absolute deciding factor but it is also somewhat dictated by the available budget. One might have the budget to properly cover a room with say 12 8340a's and necessary amplification, however a better sounding and probably flatter response surround system might be had in that same room using many more 8330a's and more amplifier channels to drive them... but at alot more cost. Mark @ CLACO  |  IP: Logged Nicolas Jalabert Film Handler Posts: 24 From: Chambéry Rhone-alpes France Registered: Feb 2004 posted 06-13-2004 12:39 PM                     Hello I would like to know since how long there a reduction in quality on the EVX180B? I am obstinate but I do not find absolutely logical to put a subwoofer with a speaker who got a Fs of 35 hz with speaker in frontal enclosure which have Fs of 27 Hz!!!!???? Nico  |  IP: Logged Nicolas Jalabert Film Handler Posts: 24 From: Chambéry Rhone-alpes France Registered: Feb 2004 posted 06-15-2004 02:16 PM                     Hello, Nobody answers me, I am sad. Thanks Nico  |  IP: Logged Nicolas Jalabert Film Handler Posts: 24 From: Chambéry Rhone-alpes France Registered: Feb 2004 posted 06-16-2004 12:55 PM                     Hello always no reply Nico  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 06-16-2004 04:20 PM                        At least I will say Bon Jour!  |  IP: Logged Nicolas Jalabert Film Handler Posts: 24 From: Chambéry Rhone-alpes France Registered: Feb 2004 posted 06-16-2004 04:31 PM                     Hello John, thanks you Well I always not resolve my problem. I believed while coming on this forum that some fitter would have listened to all the existing sound material. But in made that does not have the surface to be the case. Marks as Jbl have the surface to have the monopoly in the USA. My best memories with the cinema were not often equipped in jbl, far from there ! In France little cinema is equipped in EV. There is much Kcs due at their price much weaker. But the sound is far from being so bad. I had the occasion of listened to the 4645c and for the moment I am skeptic on his qualities. Much on this forum one it air of preferred with the tl880. + Nico  |  IP: Logged Antonio Marcheselli Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1260 From: Florence, Italy Registered: Mar 2000 posted 06-16-2004 05:17 PM                        quote: Nicolas Jalabert There is much Kcs due at their price much weaker. But the sound is far from being so bad. Nicholas I can't agree!!!  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-16-2004 06:54 PM                     We have used KCS in several installs with no complaints they just are not as powerfull as the JBL  |  IP: Logged Antonio Marcheselli Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1260 From: Florence, Italy Registered: Mar 2000 posted 06-17-2004 03:30 PM                        I remember that Richard doesn't agree with me too. The High frequency of KCS are not acceptable for me and the low frequencies of the KCS subs are not comparable with JBL, EV (before steve's bad news!) or Martin. This is my opinion of course! Bye A  |  IP: Logged

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