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John Hegel
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Construction of this auditorium was started in 1937 and opened to the public in 1940.

It is in fact a building that was paid for by the tax payers, but is now in the hands of a private owner.

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John Hegel
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Bringing up this topic again...

Has anyone had any luck with placing the suround speakers in the ceiling (in my case 37 feet in the air?

I would rather not have any on the speakers within sight of a person seated in the room.

Could it be done in such a way that 2 smaller stage type speakers placed in the ceiling would be able to fill/cover the pit and front of the balcony. Then for reinforcment place the normal amount of speakers along the back walls of the balcony and floor seating?

This is just an idea I am playing with, but would like to have other peoples input.

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John Pytlak
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quote: John Hegel
Has anyone had any luck with placing the suround speakers in the ceiling (in my case 37 feet in the air?

I personally would avoid attending any theatre using such a non-standard placement of the normal surround channels.

On the other hand, if it was a sound mix taking advantage of additional channels to provide a "Voice of God" channel above. [Cool]

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Steve Guttag
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Yes, I have had success in placing speakers high up in a theatre (technically in the ceiling).

However, I would avoid it.

In my application, the customer wanted invisible speakers since the room itself was to be devoid of such technical features (it is Colonial Williamsburg). There were two "slots" in the ceiling where lighting instruments lived and the slots spanned the width of the room (note, these slots were not orginal to the room). I was "allowed" to place surround speakers up there so long as they did not hang below the ceiling line.

I placed four high-power surrounds up there. I was also allowed to place some surrounds in the faux balconies. Using some modeling to define the coverage and placement (EASE software) and then some use of delays to time align the rear speakers to the ceiling speakers, I was able to obtain a uniform coverage where the rear speakers help pull the sound down some. The customer was quite pleased.

If you ever venture to Colonial Williamsburg, VA, check out the Kimball theatre.

Steve

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Gordon McLeod
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Phillips in there publication "designing the Cinema recomended ceiling mounted surround speakers

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